mjn

AR-15 A3 tactical carbine. New, unfired. Til yesterday, that is...
Now I've gotta figure out what I want to put on it... Holy crap there are a lot of choices!

Kolat

Eotech....acogs are'nt worth their cost unless you are gonna be using it in the stan.


T

mjn

English?

Kolat

Put an eotech on it, the acogs are'nt worth their over inflated cost unless you plan on shooting man sized objects in an oversized literbox.

T

James

Optic's MJN. He's talk'in about optics.

When we go'in shoot'in?
What day's ya got off next week?

Rattlesnake Range is open Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday.

sunofnun

Hey that's a great looking shooter.. welcome to the black rifle sickness.

As far as loading it up goes, you have to decide what you want to use it for.

Close quarters, or long range. Since it's a 16 inch w/a fixed front site, I'd say go for the lightweight room clearer.

Some options to consider:


Handgaurd picatinny rail
Magpul, Daniel Defence, VLTOR, Yankee Hill, Larue, Troy Industries, Midwest Industries etc etc




foregrip of some sort
fixxed, flip down,





you could keep the irons w/the carry handle, or put a backup iron site (BUIS) and a optic of some sort

Aimpoint and EOtech kind of kick ass, or an ACOG if your rich. These all start at $400 and go up to a grand plus..

Kolat's point was unless your going into harms way you can get a knock off, or clone.. or a less expensive brand like barska.. then you can get down well under $200. I have a aimpoint clone on mine.. and it is just dandy (pete will tell you different! lol)

aimpoint



Eotech




For your buttstock and grips, there are quite a few options. Magpul is pretty much a great place to start VLTOR won't treat you wrong either.

grips




Buttstock




Personally I think you could go w/all magpull stuff and be pretty happy for not a lot of cash.

mjn

Thanks guys..

Like I said, I haven't decided what way to go at this point.. I think the 12 guage is a better close quarters device, so I'm leaning toward more of a 50-200 yard tool.. Coyotes, or whatever.
We'll see. I'm not going to do anything but shoot it and get used to it for awhile.. not gonna make any purchases for it until I know what I want..

mjn

I'm off Tues and Weds, so a Wednesday would be great! The coming two weeks are lookin kinda tight.. after that?

reppinthe509

i found this on a website, it may be cheap but with a lifetime warranty and good reviews on it and their customer service it looks good..

http://www.valhallaarmory.com/Get_Ou...p/good-ult.htm

GixxerPete

Well let me start by saying you can never go wrong with a Colt, they are still considered by many to be the "gold standard" in ARs. That said, if you're looking for 200 yard accuracy, a short-barreled M4 clone is not really the ticket for that.

But fear not, it is an AR after all and that can be changed. For longer range accuracy, you'll want something like a 18-20" barrel, in heavy, match or bull configuration. You'd want a free-floating barrel, so you'd need rails or other handguards that free-float the barrel Or you could buy a complete upper with said barrel and have two guns in one. The stock upper with irons or red dot etc for CQB, and l the longer, free-floated upper with scope for long range/coyotes.

Since you mentioned coyotes... (RRA Coyote Rifle uppers)

Rock River Arms: Coyote Rifle / Carbine Upper Half

That ain't cheap, but like I said you'd kind of end up with two guns in one. It all depends on how much accuracy you really want/need and how much you're willing to spend to get it. You could just slap a decent scope on your rifle as is and go for it. You should expect something like 4" groups at 200 yards give or take with that setup. A quality free-float barrel and match trigger and you could be under 2" at 200 yards.

Kolat

Barrel length has no effect on accuracy as long as its long enough to stabalize the projectile. Barrel length affects your sight radius using iron sights and affects velocity.

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mjn

Thanks Pete. Yea.. I figured I might invest in another upper at some point..

Agreed... but because of the sight radius, it is easier to put 'em where you want.
I wanted a short barrel to begin with.. I like the overall size. I think for now, I'll start looking for a decent scope to put on it. I'm not gonna do all the other shit; flashlight, laser..etc.. I think I'll put a light on my Mossy 12 GA instead.

GixxerPete

Not accuracy per se, but it sure does effect terminal ballistics, especially with the .223/5.56 round. Terminal ballistics on < 16" barrels starts dropping off after as little as 100 yards.

Now I haven't talked to any coyotes lately to see how they feel about getting hit with .223 round from a short barreled rifle at 200 yards, so YMMV.

James

Sure! You got my numbers!

Kolat

They flip ass over ears just the same if they are running. Standing still they fall over just the same lol

T

Brianaintright

Nice gun. Colt is a great way to go if you're serious about shooting. You have the heavy barrel with a 1/9 twist which is nice because it stabilizes a wide range on bullet weights. If you are hunting dogs, you can go with a 45 gr. ballistic tip and that'll cook right along.

If you want to shoot shorter distances but not quite cqb stuff (50-200) an ACOG would be my first choice but you can get a nice 1.5-5 variable from leupold and that would rock. IF you want a bit cheaper, the trijicon accupoint scopes get good reviews.

Check out the sample list from SWFA, lots of bargains there.

Quality optics and accessories from Leupold, Bushnell, Burris, Nikon and more!

JensenPS179

pretty sweet ar mark!!

when i figure out how to post pics i'll get ya a pic of mine!!

CanucksFan

This is just packaged NcStar and UTG stuff you can buy direct from Amazon for about $100 less.

CanucksFan

Nice Mark! Where did you pick it up?

lyestille

nice looking AR, Congrats.

reppinthe509

yeah but then theres no lifetime warranty or return policy. have you used any of this stuff before?

paintguy

Went to Wholesale Sports yesterday for some PMags and came home with a Savage Model 10 .308 with a Burris 6.5-20 for under 900.00...and my wife didnt shoot me with it :?)

Teacher Todd

You have a great rifle and now the fun begins. Make it what you want.

Here is mine.

CanucksFan

Not yet, but I should have that same NcStar scope tomorrow. My plan is to mount it on my S&W M&P .22.

mjn

Let me know what you think!

CanucksFan

Will do Mark.

CanucksFan

Well Mark, so far, everything seems pretty solid and went on pretty easy. The scope looks pretty sharp, but no idea if it will hold accuracy after it's zeroed in. I plan on shooting this weekend, so I'll let you know how it goes.

So far, I've installed the following, with a grand total of $168.

Amazon.com: UTG Ambi Foldable Tactical Foregrip with 5 Adjustable Positions: Sports & Outdoors
Amazon.com: NcSTAR® 3 - 9x42 mm Mark III Rubber Tactical Scope with Integrated Laser: Sports & Outdoors
Amazon.com: UTG Defender Series Weapon and Handheld Tactical Xenon Flashlight: Sports & Outdoors

reppinthe509

hows the laser look? super bright?

PiNk TCP

Love that new gun smell!

reppinthe509

awwwwww its not pink.

PiNk TCP

Of course you knew this was coming

CanucksFan

Hard to say- it was pretty overcast here when I took it outside yesterday. That being said, I had no problem seeing the dot out to the 50 yd range (the length of my back yard). I would say that on a sunny day, anything more than 75 yds is going to be pretty iffy. Personally, I'm going to site the laser in at 50 yds, and the scope at 100- I'm not going to try and shoot from the hip at anything out past 50 yds anyways.

CanucksFan

Final verdict- the laser doesn't work well past 25' in direct sunlight. The scope part is fantastic- really happy with how well it works. Dialed it in at 100 yards and it works flawlessly. I've taken it out 3 times now, and the scope has remained dialed in with no drift or readjustment needed.