International Ordinance (IO) AK-47

Guff · 03-04-2009, 07:28 PM

Needed some quick advice on how good a company (quality wise) International Ordinance is for their AK-47s. If anyone has experience or has heard something about them please let me know asap.

FatFugg · 03-04-2009, 07:35 PM

Is it Inter Ordnance or international Ordinance?

Metonymy · 03-04-2009, 08:10 PM

I always hate cross-linking forums, but you may find this helpful:

IO AK-47c - Maryland Shooters

The AK Files Forums - 100% US AKM's and STG's from IO

Guff · 03-04-2009, 11:52 PM

I thought the guy at the shop said International Ordinance, but it very well could have been InterOrdinance.

I happened across at least one of the forums listed (thanks by the way) while doing some research and from what I'm reading they look to be reliable and as accurate as one could expect from the platform, which is exactly what I'm looking for in an AK.

KillermondoDude · 03-05-2009, 08:03 AM

Jihad Guff with the instrument of revolution

Mic · 03-05-2009, 08:26 AM

I still have a hard time imagining Guff with guns... =)

Guff · 03-05-2009, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillermondoDude

Jihad Guff with the instrument of revolution

Before your conspiracy theory gets too over the top, I'm also working on an AR.

Guff · 03-05-2009, 03:03 PM

What a new I/O looks like... Notice no cleaning rod under the barrel. Maybe I'll get one for cosmetics then a real one for actually cleaning.

Metonymy · 03-05-2009, 03:40 PM

Wolf ammo? Please tell me it's brass and not steel... I wouldn't put any steel rounds through any of my guns, especially not a brand new one...

Anyway... that's a mighty sexy beast you have there...

Guff · 03-05-2009, 04:14 PM

Steel cases, copper jackets. I've been reading this one author (Patrick Sweeney) who talks about Wolf rounds at great length and mentions that having put thousands of their rounds down various barrels he hasn't had any problems...

Those are my "End of the world, there's no ammo to be had, I have 200 rounds to find more ammo" rounds. You can't shoot them at Wades

due to the steel cases, and that's where I'll probably shoot it the most (once I get a membership there at some point this year probably).

The look of this rifle is growing on me some, but I'm still interested in trying to hand carve a stock and handguards... First I need to find a customer looking to get rid of a nice tree.

Mic · 03-05-2009, 04:22 PM

Nice going Guff!

So what kind of AR are you building?

migxdm · 03-05-2009, 06:41 PM

all my guns love wolf ammo with the exception of 380 in my lcp. my ak 47 loves it, my ak 74 loves it, my ar15 loves it. ive shot about 6000 rounds of it with nary a problem. i think wolf vs brass is the same argument at arco vs chevron

Metonymy · 03-05-2009, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by migxdm

all my guns love wolf ammo with the exception of 380 in my lcp. my ak 47 loves it, my ak 74 loves it, my ar15 loves it. ive shot about 6000 rounds of it with nary a problem. i think wolf vs brass is the same argument at arco vs chevron

Your car must run like crap then?

Guff · 03-05-2009, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mic

Nice going Guff!

So what kind of AR are you building?

A stag mid-length with free-floating. I'll write it up in 6 months when I get the upper.

Quote:

Originally Posted by migxdm

all my guns love wolf ammo with the exception of 380 in my lcp. my ak 47 loves it, my ak 74 loves it, my ar15 loves it. ive shot about 6000 rounds of it with nary a problem. i think wolf vs brass is the same argument at arco vs chevron

Good to hear from an actual person besides just reading about it. So long as a person isn't expecting insane accuracy I don't think (from what I've read) they should be dissapointed with the wolf... of course if someone is expecting insane accuracy they shouldn't be firing an AK in the first place.

Mic · 03-05-2009, 08:42 PM

So if you don't mind me asking, what did the I/O end up running you?

Guff · 03-05-2009, 09:13 PM

The rifle was $585ish cash and a touch over $600 credit. 30 rnd mags were $18 each minus the included one and the wolf ammo was about $7 per 20 rnds.

A buddy of mine picked up several AKs (Century Yugos (for both I believe), one an underfolder and one fixed stock) for mid $400s around Nov. '08... So the price I paid is high in general, but for what AKs are going for in the shops I've seen the price range is averaging between $700 low end and $1k high end. I've heard of some places selling Century Yugos fixed stock (what I had originally wanted) mid $500s, but I've yet to actually see one in stock at any shop nor have I heard any exact dates as to when they would be in.

I went to West Coast Armory in Issaquah. While I go to Wades to shoot and look at their selection before shooting, I like the customer service, friendliness and prices of WCA. I don't know a lot about shooting yet, but I never feel stupid asking them questions.

Guff · 03-05-2009, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metonymy

Your car must run like crap then?

So long as he's not driving a high performance vehicle it probably runs well enough.

Jakey poo · 03-05-2009, 09:33 PM

My ak loves wolf, and my Yota loves Arco

Preacherman · 05-20-2011, 11:22 AM

I bought an I/O AK-47 also and it did not come with a cleaning rod either.

Can someone tell me how the heck you remove the forward hand guard on that thing... I did a field strip to clean it and noticed some dirt in the hand guard area but can't figure out how to remove it.

reppinthe509 · 05-20-2011, 12:09 PM

you gotta flip the gas block up and it should come out. we had a hard time with my buddies but that was the first time he did it.

03-04-2009, 07:28 PM	#1
Guff Rifleman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Bellevue Posts: 151	International Ordinance (IO) AK-47 Needed some quick advice on how good a company (quality wise) International Ordinance is for their AK-47s. If anyone has experience or has heard something about them please let me know asap.

03-04-2009, 07:35 PM	#2
FatFugg Sharpshooter Joined: Jan 2009 From: Dri-Shities Posts: 563	Is it Inter Ordnance or international Ordinance? Last edited by FatFugg; 03-04-2009 at 07:38 PM.

05-20-2011, 11:22 AM	#19
Preacherman Newbie Joined: May 2011 From: Tularosa, NM Posts: 1	Ak-47 I bought an I/O AK-47 also and it did not come with a cleaning rod either. Can someone tell me how the heck you remove the forward hand guard on that thing... I did a field strip to clean it and noticed some dirt in the hand guard area but can't figure out how to remove it.

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03-04-2009, 08:10 PM	#3
Metonymy Marksman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Washington Posts: 370	I always hate cross-linking forums, but you may find this helpful: IO AK-47c - Maryland Shooters The AK Files Forums - 100% US AKM's and STG's from IO

03-04-2009, 11:52 PM	#4
Guff Rifleman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Bellevue Posts: 151	I thought the guy at the shop said International Ordinance, but it very well could have been InterOrdinance. I happened across at least one of the forums listed (thanks by the way) while doing some research and from what I'm reading they look to be reliable and as accurate as one could expect from the platform, which is exactly what I'm looking for in an AK.

03-05-2009, 08:03 AM	#5
KillermondoDude Marksman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Washington on the wet side Posts: 328	Jihad Guff with the instrument of revolution

03-05-2009, 08:26 AM	#6
Mic Rifleman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Wa Posts: 165	I still have a hard time imagining Guff with guns... =)

03-05-2009, 03:03 PM	#8
Guff Rifleman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Bellevue Posts: 151	What a new I/O looks like... Notice no cleaning rod under the barrel. Maybe I'll get one for cosmetics then a real one for actually cleaning.

03-05-2009, 03:40 PM	#9
Metonymy Marksman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Washington Posts: 370	Wolf ammo? Please tell me it's brass and not steel... I wouldn't put any steel rounds through any of my guns, especially not a brand new one... Anyway... that's a mighty sexy beast you have there...

03-05-2009, 04:14 PM	#10
Guff Rifleman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Bellevue Posts: 151	Steel cases, copper jackets. I've been reading this one author (Patrick Sweeney) who talks about Wolf rounds at great length and mentions that having put thousands of their rounds down various barrels he hasn't had any problems... Those are my "End of the world, there's no ammo to be had, I have 200 rounds to find more ammo" rounds. You can't shoot them at Wades due to the steel cases, and that's where I'll probably shoot it the most (once I get a membership there at some point this year probably). The look of this rifle is growing on me some, but I'm still interested in trying to hand carve a stock and handguards... First I need to find a customer looking to get rid of a nice tree.

03-05-2009, 04:22 PM	#11
Mic Rifleman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Wa Posts: 165	Nice going Guff! So what kind of AR are you building?

03-05-2009, 06:41 PM	#12
migxdm Rifleman Joined: Feb 2009 From: redmond,wa Posts: 246	all my guns love wolf ammo with the exception of 380 in my lcp. my ak 47 loves it, my ak 74 loves it, my ar15 loves it. ive shot about 6000 rounds of it with nary a problem. i think wolf vs brass is the same argument at arco vs chevron

03-05-2009, 08:42 PM	#15
Mic Rifleman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Wa Posts: 165	So if you don't mind me asking, what did the I/O end up running you?

03-05-2009, 09:13 PM	#16
Guff Rifleman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Bellevue Posts: 151	The rifle was $585ish cash and a touch over $600 credit. 30 rnd mags were $18 each minus the included one and the wolf ammo was about $7 per 20 rnds. A buddy of mine picked up several AKs (Century Yugos (for both I believe), one an underfolder and one fixed stock) for mid $400s around Nov. '08... So the price I paid is high in general, but for what AKs are going for in the shops I've seen the price range is averaging between $700 low end and $1k high end. I've heard of some places selling Century Yugos fixed stock (what I had originally wanted) mid $500s, but I've yet to actually see one in stock at any shop nor have I heard any exact dates as to when they would be in. I went to West Coast Armory in Issaquah. While I go to Wades to shoot and look at their selection before shooting, I like the customer service, friendliness and prices of WCA. I don't know a lot about shooting yet, but I never feel stupid asking them questions.

03-05-2009, 09:33 PM	#18
Jakey poo Rifleman Joined: Feb 2009 From: CVO, OR Posts: 116	My ak loves wolf, and my Yota loves Arco

05-20-2011, 12:09 PM	#20
reppinthe509 Marksman Joined: Jul 2009 From: Spokane Posts: 423	you gotta flip the gas block up and it should come out. we had a hard time with my buddies but that was the first time he did it.