GixxerPete

So I finally got the dough to buy an AR, figured out what I want (that be a RRA) but was told they are 8+ months backordered??? I really wanted to build one off a standard A4, but a Varmint A4 would be close enough to what I want.

Anyone know where to get RRA or if the backlog of orders is really that bad?

Mic

start checking around at different gun stores.

One thing I noticed at the last gunshow I went to, is this shit is no longer selling. Jason and I went to the last WAC show, and we showed up later (around noon, left at 2) and there were still Lower Parts Kits laying around everywhere.

I think the Frenzy is over, and you'll start to be able to see some of this stuff make it back on to shelves. I know the last few times I've been to some of the shops we frequent they have always had a good selection of AR's from RR, DF, and the like.

KillermondoDude

they are still on gun broker and assholes still want 1000 over Retail

Kesselrings has a good selection of ARs (even have an ar10)

GixxerPete

Well that's encouraging. Federal Way had a couple in stock, though not exactly what I'm looking for. They said they can get S&W, DPMS I think, but just no RRA.

I wasn't really planning on building one from scratch, but if it comes down to it I will. I was looking on Armalite's site last nite and found a model pretty close to the RRA I was looking at, so that could work as well.

GixxerPete

Ok that's not so encouraging. Damn price gougers.

KillermondoDude

Just ran it through
prices are coming down
found nice a4 varminter for 1199

FatFugg

Does it have to be a complete gun? You could build one for less the a grand if that interested ya.

As already stated the mad rush appears to be over & prices are coming back down & availability is getting better. Most of the manufacturers are trying to fill back orders asap. Just keep your eyes open & you will find what you want.

GixxerPete

It doesn't *have* to be a complete gun, but that is what I wanted. I don't really want to build one unless I have to. I've waited this long, I spose I can wait a little longer.

sunofnun

you need to check out west coast armory

West Coast Armory

thejrod

Why RRA?

GixxerPete

Cuz it seems they're the only ones that let me build exactly what I want. Some of the others have models that are close, but not exact.

sunofnun

ha ha.. I told him to just build it from scratch. I just picked up a RRA stripped lower for $180... gonna make a 16 incher

GixxerPete

So now I'm thinking this one:

Olympic Arms, Inc. - K8 - Targetmatch

Metonymy

From what I've heard, Olympic arms uses non-standard parts which makes interchangeability much much harder.

I'm sure someone *cough* (mic) *cough* can chime in with more details.

FatFugg

So if your considering a 20" why not get either of these? I know they would both be cheaper in they didn't have match triggers, but I would rather have a RRA then an Oly any day. I know they have supposedly gotten better but I had too many issues with them in the past.

PK Firearms | Online Store

GixxerPete

Well RRA was my first choice, but apparently they are backordered until 2020, so I'm forced to look elsewhere. I didn't really want the NM as it has front irons, and what's the deal with that handguard? It's a free float right? But just not a tube style?

I spose I could go with the NM A4 and be able to shoot the irons as is, and pop off the handle and mount a scope?

GixxerPete

Good to know. I spose I'd rather stick with the standard parts crowd. You know, just in case TSHTF and I need to "repair" my weapons Fallout 3 style.

KillermondoDude

Just got back from Kesselrings and they have 2 Armalight AR10s 308 for 22-2400

GixxerPete

Well if was looking for a .308 and had twice the budget I have now I'd be all over that!

FatFugg

$2400.00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

GOOD LORD THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY!For a gun with an MSRP of between $1500.00 & $1900.00!!! Unless it was the AR10 SuperS.A.S.S. then it would be a good deal!

KMD, If you are going to spend that kind of money on a .308 you should REALLY look into a DSA FAL even if you have your heart set on an AR-10!

KillermondoDude

LOLZ nuh uh i wanna HK but that ones 3200


they had a dpm for `1400

they gots a bunch of ARs from 12-1900

Oh and it looked like this but black not green

FatFugg

I guess the point I'm trying to get at is it appears that their prices are HIGH, due to the fact that that guns MSRP is $1900.00!

Their are shops & online stores that haven't raised their prices to gouge the customer. You just have to keep your eyes open because they sell out quick when they get hot item in.

Thread Jack over!

GixxerPete

Ok so the more I look at the NM A4 the more its growing on me. With the carry handle & irons it's very reminiscint of me old M16, but take off the handle, pop on a scope and it's long range plinkin time.

sunofnun

I had a oly, and put a jard trigger kit in it.. it had a colt upper that I swapped out the standard foregrip for a freefloater..

Never had any parts not fit?

FatFugg

OOOHHHHHH, OOOOOHHHHHH, OOOOOHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

Pete, I got an idea fur ya!!!!!

Buy a Sabre Defence 18 inch SS Fluted Mid w/DD 12 inch Lite Rail and A2 FH for $850.00

& a Rock River Arms Stripped Lower Receiver with RRA LRPK for $240.00

& a Magpul CTR Stock - COMPLETE KIT - MILSPEC - BLACK for $142.00

assemble it all yourself

& for a total of $1232.00 you will have a better AR then the one you want or the other ones that are currently available.

All of these parts are currently available at PK.

What do ya think?

DJ Nathan V

That's the appeal of the A4... which will be my next build since I have an A2 20" standard already.

Guff

Great shop, this is where I go when I'm looking to buy anything. The staff is easy to talk to and interested in helping you make the right purchase, not just a purchase.

-Guff

Guff

$895
Stag Arms

$1,055
Stag Arms

Last I heard though they were 4-6 months out.

sunofnun

they got badass prices on ammo too (but don't tell anyone!)

that's where I picked up my new lower.

GixxerPete

That Model 6 is nice. Don't think I need/want a 24" barrel, but otherwise that is pretty sweet.

GixxerPete

Ok I did some more searching last night online, and I think I found what I'm looking for. I'm not gonna say where til it's a done deal (I'll be calling first thing Monday morning) but it looks like this, with an 18" barrel:

FatFugg

Have you held that gun yet? I just sold my RRA varmint upper because it was heavy as hell. If your just layin down taking out targets it's perfect, but for carrying & upright shooting it was too heavy IMHO.

GixxerPete

No I haven't... but how heavy can it be? I'll probably be carring it from the back of my Jeep to where I'm going to shoot & back. I won't be doing any 20 mile road marches with it. I want accuracy. You don't get small/light and accuracy.

I will have another AR someday. It will be a carbine and all tacticool with Master Chief optics and all the goodies. I want this one to be a shooter, and the Varmint A4 seems to fit that bill?

FatFugg

Pete, if you haven't found what your lookin for yet!

Check these out! I know it's only the upper, but they have all of the pieces to build what you want!

PK Firearms | Online Store

$992 for the complete un assembled gun, better then what RRA sells complete!

GixxerPete

I think I may have found a place online to get some RRAs... if not I may just go this route instead. I should know today one way or another.

KillermondoDude

Anachortez Wtelescope and wild bird has a DPMS A4 for 1400
Buytelescopes.com -Products- Telescopes, Binoculars, Spotting Scopes, Hunting, Meade, Celestron

FatFugg

Grigg's department store has the same ones as these but DPMS's for $1098.00 & they have over 20 of them in stock.

Buytelescopes.com - Products- Telescopes, Binoculars, Spotting Scopes, Hunting, Meade, Celestron

Metonymy

And the verdict is???

GixxerPete

I won't know for sure til Wednesday, but it's looking like the RRA Varmint A4 will be soone be mine.

FatFugg

So you gunna pass on this info as to who has them in stock? A PM would be fine!