Ak-74 question.

carryabigstick · 12-27-2009, 04:04 PM

Hey all, I'm looking into getting an Ak-74 and I have a few questions. I already know the manual of arms and so forth but I'm not really familiar with how individual guns are as far as quality. There is a Lancaster Arms gun on Aimsurplus and a Bulgarian NDS-2 on jgsales.com. Both seem like they're priced right but which would be the better gun? If any of you have any knowledge in this area I'd appreciate your feedback.

migxdm · 12-28-2009, 01:32 PM

i got a bulgarian ak74. its a sweet rifle and way cheaper to shoot than the ar! very acurate, tho I just have iron sites. i dont know anything about those two companies, but I assume it was just a demilitarized rifle then assembled buy that company... hard to mess that up since they were built in their former countries..

carryabigstick · 12-28-2009, 03:41 PM

Sounds good man, I will not be able to get one for a little while because it is number two on the purchase list but I am trying to do my research now so that I can jump on one when funds permit. Also, can we ship ammo strait to our house in Washington? It seems hard to find 5.45x39 and I would rather order in bulk but I'm not sure if it is allowed. Does anyone know if we must ship ammo to an ffl?

KillermondoDude · 12-28-2009, 04:20 PM

ammo dont kill people neither do uppers so you can have both mailed to your house

DerBarbarian · 12-28-2009, 09:57 PM

Dude, 5.45x39 is DIRT cheap compared to .223 and 7.62x39.. You can normally get a 1,100 rnd case for 120-140 bucks. Check Aimsurplus, or Ammunitiontogo.com or CheaperThandirt.com

Edit.
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/R...45x39_FMJ.html

carryabigstick · 12-29-2009, 10:36 AM

Wow, I was told by a local gunshop that ammo had to be shipped to an FFL in Washington State. I wonder if he was mistaken or if he just lied to try to boost his sales. He also told me that we still have to pay Washington State sales tax when we have a gun shipped to an ffl from another State. Does anyone know if this is the case?

KillermondoDude · 12-29-2009, 05:07 PM

sounds like hes trying to make/ take credit for a sale (Especially on the ammo which is kinda funny cuz ive got close to 2000 rounds of various ammo all bought on the inet )

Kolat · 12-29-2009, 05:13 PM

FFL's normally get a bit of a discount from the online places, so he was probably just wanting to pocket the difference.

Get your C&R FFL and you can get the same discount just FYI.

T

DerBarbarian · 12-29-2009, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolat

FFL's normally get a bit of a discount from the online places, so he was probably just wanting to pocket the difference.

Get your C&R FFL and you can get the same discount just FYI.

T

I Have had my C&R for a while now and there's actually a pretty big list of online places that will give you a pretty good discount on merchandise, buying one or two old guns will pay for the C&R itself, It's only $30 for 3 years I want to say.

carryabigstick · 12-30-2009, 08:53 AM

HMMM... Sounds interesting. How long might it take to get an ffl? Is it something you do by mail? Also, is there a whole bunch of paper work each year?

DerBarbarian · 12-30-2009, 10:03 AM

It's Pretty starightforward, I actually have an application kicking around. It's only 4 pages, takes 15 minutes or so to fill out, as for logging firearms there's a really simple logging sheet they can send out to you or you can make your own in Excell or what not.

Metonymy · 12-30-2009, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carryabigstick

HMMM... Sounds interesting. How long might it take to get an ffl? Is it something you do by mail? Also, is there a whole bunch of paper work each year?

ATF Online - Firearms - How To - Become An FFL

carryabigstick · 12-30-2009, 12:39 PM

Thanks fellas! I may look into doing that. Are there any other big positives to being an ffl?

carryabigstick · 12-30-2009, 12:49 PM

Also, does anyone know if you have to sell yourself ammo and guns and pay sales tax and so forth or can you just transfer to yourself?

Metonymy · 12-30-2009, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carryabigstick

Also, does anyone know if you have to sell yourself ammo and guns and pay sales tax and so forth or can you just transfer to yourself?

It only applies to rifles on the C&R list if you get that level of an FFL. You can't buy a new handgun from Florida and have it shipped to your doorstep.

The biggest advantage of the C&R FFL is the discounts, unless you collect older milsurp rifles and such.

millertime · 12-31-2009, 01:06 PM

I thought if you were an FFL you could no longer buy or sell fireamrs with out regestering them. That is a HUGE minus in my book.

carryabigstick · 01-01-2010, 02:05 PM

You could still buy private party at gun shows.

low80elco · 01-01-2010, 03:53 PM

Do you still need a place of business to hold a C&R?

Chainsaw · 01-05-2010, 07:17 PM

Stoopid question, what all shoots 5.45x39?

carryabigstick · 01-06-2010, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chainsaw

Stoopid question, what all shoots 5.45x39?

Well AK 74 and variants and I believe that S&W makes an AR that shoots it as well.

migxdm · 01-25-2010, 08:23 PM

yeah i buy ammo all the time online and have it shipped.

carryabigstick · 01-26-2010, 02:16 PM

That's good to know that you fellas in Washington DO have ammo shipped direct. I will probably not be doing business with this shop anytime soon. They have decent prices from time to time but it really bothers me that the shop fellow either lied or was misinformed. Either way, I think it should be common knowledge for someone in his profession.

DerBarbarian · 02-20-2010, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carryabigstick

That's good to know that you fellas in Washington DO have ammo shipped direct. I will probably not be doing business with this shop anytime soon. They have decent prices from time to time but it really bothers me that the shop fellow either lied or was misinformed. Either way, I think it should be common knowledge for someone in his profession.

He figured you didn't know anything and tried to take advantage of that to make an easy buck, pretty sleezy in my book.

12-27-2009, 04:04 PM	#1
carryabigstick Gunslinger Joined: Dec 2009 From: Spokane Valley Posts: 44	Ak-74 question. Hey all, I'm looking into getting an Ak-74 and I have a few questions. I already know the manual of arms and so forth but I'm not really familiar with how individual guns are as far as quality. There is a Lancaster Arms gun on Aimsurplus and a Bulgarian NDS-2 on jgsales.com. Both seem like they're priced right but which would be the better gun? If any of you have any knowledge in this area I'd appreciate your feedback.

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12-28-2009, 01:32 PM	#2
migxdm Rifleman Joined: Feb 2009 From: redmond,wa Posts: 246	i got a bulgarian ak74. its a sweet rifle and way cheaper to shoot than the ar! very acurate, tho I just have iron sites. i dont know anything about those two companies, but I assume it was just a demilitarized rifle then assembled buy that company... hard to mess that up since they were built in their former countries..

12-28-2009, 03:41 PM	#3
carryabigstick Gunslinger Joined: Dec 2009 From: Spokane Valley Posts: 44	Sounds good man, I will not be able to get one for a little while because it is number two on the purchase list but I am trying to do my research now so that I can jump on one when funds permit. Also, can we ship ammo strait to our house in Washington? It seems hard to find 5.45x39 and I would rather order in bulk but I'm not sure if it is allowed. Does anyone know if we must ship ammo to an ffl?

12-28-2009, 04:20 PM	#4
KillermondoDude Marksman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Washington on the wet side Posts: 328	ammo dont kill people neither do uppers so you can have both mailed to your house

12-28-2009, 09:57 PM	#5
DerBarbarian Rifleman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Seattle Posts: 212	Dude, 5.45x39 is DIRT cheap compared to .223 and 7.62x39.. You can normally get a 1,100 rnd case for 120-140 bucks. Check Aimsurplus, or Ammunitiontogo.com or CheaperThandirt.com Edit. http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/R...45x39_FMJ.html

12-29-2009, 10:36 AM	#6
carryabigstick Gunslinger Joined: Dec 2009 From: Spokane Valley Posts: 44	Wow, I was told by a local gunshop that ammo had to be shipped to an FFL in Washington State. I wonder if he was mistaken or if he just lied to try to boost his sales. He also told me that we still have to pay Washington State sales tax when we have a gun shipped to an ffl from another State. Does anyone know if this is the case?

12-29-2009, 05:07 PM	#7
KillermondoDude Marksman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Washington on the wet side Posts: 328	sounds like hes trying to make/ take credit for a sale (Especially on the ammo which is kinda funny cuz ive got close to 2000 rounds of various ammo all bought on the inet )

12-29-2009, 05:13 PM	#8
Kolat Marksman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Spokane Posts: 371	FFL's normally get a bit of a discount from the online places, so he was probably just wanting to pocket the difference. Get your C&R FFL and you can get the same discount just FYI. T

12-30-2009, 08:53 AM	#10
carryabigstick Gunslinger Joined: Dec 2009 From: Spokane Valley Posts: 44	HMMM... Sounds interesting. How long might it take to get an ffl? Is it something you do by mail? Also, is there a whole bunch of paper work each year?

12-30-2009, 10:03 AM	#11
DerBarbarian Rifleman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Seattle Posts: 212	It's Pretty starightforward, I actually have an application kicking around. It's only 4 pages, takes 15 minutes or so to fill out, as for logging firearms there's a really simple logging sheet they can send out to you or you can make your own in Excell or what not.

12-30-2009, 12:39 PM	#13
carryabigstick Gunslinger Joined: Dec 2009 From: Spokane Valley Posts: 44	Thanks fellas! I may look into doing that. Are there any other big positives to being an ffl?

12-30-2009, 12:49 PM	#14
carryabigstick Gunslinger Joined: Dec 2009 From: Spokane Valley Posts: 44	Also, does anyone know if you have to sell yourself ammo and guns and pay sales tax and so forth or can you just transfer to yourself?

12-31-2009, 01:06 PM	#16
millertime Gunslinger Joined: Oct 2009 From: seattle wa Posts: 56	I thought if you were an FFL you could no longer buy or sell fireamrs with out regestering them. That is a HUGE minus in my book.

01-01-2010, 02:05 PM	#17
carryabigstick Gunslinger Joined: Dec 2009 From: Spokane Valley Posts: 44	You could still buy private party at gun shows.

01-01-2010, 03:53 PM	#18
low80elco Gunslinger Joined: Feb 2009 From: Spokane Posts: 16	Do you still need a place of business to hold a C&R?

01-05-2010, 07:17 PM	#19
Chainsaw Gunslinger Joined: Dec 2009 From: kenmore wa Posts: 24	Stoopid question, what all shoots 5.45x39?

01-25-2010, 08:23 PM	#21
migxdm Rifleman Joined: Feb 2009 From: redmond,wa Posts: 246	yeah i buy ammo all the time online and have it shipped.

01-26-2010, 02:16 PM	#22
carryabigstick Gunslinger Joined: Dec 2009 From: Spokane Valley Posts: 44	That's good to know that you fellas in Washington DO have ammo shipped direct. I will probably not be doing business with this shop anytime soon. They have decent prices from time to time but it really bothers me that the shop fellow either lied or was misinformed. Either way, I think it should be common knowledge for someone in his profession.