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Old 06-12-2013, 03:13 PM   #1
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.22 M16 replica

So I`ve seen .22 ARs everywhere, some of dubious quality. But what I haven`t seen before is this-A .22 LR M16A1. I`ve always loved the look, and this one has really caught my eye. It appears to be an Armi Jager AP-74. After a couple quick reads on forums long dead, it appears to be quite accurate for what it is, but a real Pain to put back together after disassembly. Here`s the catch on the one I found: It`s missing a mag. Does anyone know where I can buy one or two?
 
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:46 PM   #2
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Forgot to mention, I`ve already checked Gunbroker. That just seemed like the most likely place I would find one.
 
Old 06-13-2013, 03:26 PM   #3
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ebay?
 
Old 06-13-2013, 03:49 PM   #4
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ebay?
I tried that after posting this thread, Nothing came up that would fit it.
 
Old 06-13-2013, 07:38 PM   #5
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Wonder how you lose the magazine anyways. I did a bit of googling, looks like others that are looking for parts such as extractors and stuff have been out of luck so far for 2 + years. Might be wary in getting one of these in-case something else goes wrong with it.
 
Old 06-13-2013, 07:48 PM   #6
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Wonder how you lose the magazine anyways. I did a bit of googling, looks like others that are looking for parts such as extractors and stuff have been out of luck so far for 2 + years. Might be wary in getting one of these in-case something else goes wrong with it.
Yeah, the guy sent me an email saying that he`s not interested in what I`ve got to trade, but I`m getting closer to selling off that stuff, maybe I could buy it from him.
 
Old 06-13-2013, 08:34 PM   #7
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give these guys a try?

http://www.ammoclip.com/J/jager.htm
 
Old 06-14-2013, 11:18 AM   #8
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Why not one of those S&W AR clone .22lr's?
 
Old 06-14-2013, 04:33 PM   #9
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Looks like those might fit, but I dunno if I`m willing to shell out $38 for a single mag.
 
Old 06-14-2013, 04:34 PM   #10
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Why not one of those S&W AR clone .22lr's?
I`ve heard good things about them, but they`re just ugly to me. The proportions just seem off, the mag looks huge, too. I just want a .22 AR clone that looks at least kind of like an AR.
 
Old 06-14-2013, 05:26 PM   #11
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I know it's not an A1, but the S&W M&P15-22 is a rock solid choice....especially with the availability of 35 Rnd Mags

 
Old 06-14-2013, 08:08 PM   #12
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I`ve heard good things about them, but they`re just ugly to me. The proportions just seem off, the mag looks huge, too. I just want a .22 AR clone that looks at least kind of like an AR.
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I know it's not an A1, but the S&W M&P15-22 is a rock solid choice....especially with the availability of 35 Rnd Mags

This doesn't look like a real AR?
 
Old 06-14-2013, 08:14 PM   #13
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This doesn't look like a real AR?
I guess I`m picky when it comes to guns, the mag just seems too large, Yes, It does look like an AR, I just don`t quite care for the aesthetics of *that* one. I like the look of an M16A1, like the rimfire I came across.
 
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I did some google-fu. Looks like Armi Jager was based in Italy, and has been out of business since the early 90s. Good luck finding mags for it..
 
Old 06-15-2013, 07:24 AM   #15
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I guess I`m picky when it comes to guns, the mag just seems too large, Yes, It does look like an AR, I just don`t quite care for the aesthetics of *that* one. I like the look of an M16A1, like the rimfire I came across.
The mag in the photo above is the 35 Rnd Plinker Tactical, yes it is quite long and yes the 25 Rnd S&W M&P15-22 mags are longer than a 30 Rnd Pmag, but looking at the end view, the M&P 15-22 mags are only 0.010 wider in the cross section (up and down in my photo) But are narrower in width than the Pmag by 0.060, coming in at 2.450 in to the Pmag's 2.510. I don't think you will find a .22 magazine more dimensionally correct to the real thing than a M&P 15-22 mag





Other than not being an A1 I do see a bit of extra length (difference) in the lower of the 15-22, behind the grip, below the charge handle.


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Old 06-15-2013, 09:25 AM   #16
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I did some google-fu. Looks like Armi Jager was based in Italy, and has been out of business since the early 90s. Good luck finding mags for it..
That`s what I thought.
 
Old 06-15-2013, 09:26 AM   #17
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The mag in the photo above is the 35 Rnd Plinker Tactical, yes it is quite long and yes the 25 Rnd S&W M&P15-22 mags are longer than a 30 Rnd Pmag, but looking at the end view, the M&P 15-22 mags are only 0.010 wider in the cross section (up and down in my photo) But are narrower in width than the Pmag by 0.060, coming in at 2.450 in to the Pmag's 2.510. I don't think you will find a .22 magazine more dimensionally correct to the real thing than a M&P 15-22 mag





Other than not being an A1 I do see a bit of extra length (difference) in the lower of the 15-22, behind the grip, below the charge handle.

When you put it like that, it does satisfy my interest. Still, I think the one I found just looks better.
 
Old 06-15-2013, 09:53 AM   #18
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I've got an M&P 15-22.. and several AR's
I swap furniture often.. everything seems very similar.

You can't swap the upper on to a proper AR lower.. but visually it looks the same..
 
Old 06-15-2013, 12:39 PM   #19
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I've got an M&P 15-22.. and several AR's
I swap furniture often.. everything seems very similar.

You can't swap the upper on to a proper AR lower.. but visually it looks the same..
I`m sure that this is a really dumb question, but can a lower from an M&P15-22 fit on a regular AR upper? Or is nothing else, apart from furniture, swappable?
 
Old 06-15-2013, 01:21 PM   #20
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I`m sure that this is a really dumb question, but can a lower from an M&P15-22 fit on a regular AR upper? Or is nothing else, apart from furniture, swappable?
No not dumb at all..the M&P15-22 is a proprietary 22 Cal platform, the grips are the only thing I can think of that spec out to a .223/5.56 AR?
 
Old 06-15-2013, 03:44 PM   #21
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No not dumb at all..the M&P15-22 is a proprietary 22 Cal platform, the grips are the only thing I can think of that spec out to a .223/5.56 AR?
Alright, That`s what I was thinking. I`m just interested in getting into the AR game on a budget, as hard to do as that may be.
 
Old 06-15-2013, 05:11 PM   #22
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Alright, That`s what I was thinking. I`m just interested in getting into the AR game on a budget, as hard to do as that may be.
Hard to go wrong with a S&W.. You could always buy a complete lower, and then buy a .22lr upper. Cost a few hundred more than a S&W, but you could make it into an M16A1 clone pretty easily.

I'm not specifically endorsing Model 1 Sales, but they do offer a lot of cool options. This, and a complete polymer lower, and you're in the game for right at 600. Plus, you can alwyas swap uppers for different calibers later if you wanted.
Model 1 Sales: .22LR C.A.R. Upper
 
Old 06-15-2013, 07:08 PM   #23
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Hard to go wrong with a S&W.. You could always buy a complete lower, and then buy a .22lr upper. Cost a few hundred more than a S&W, but you could make it into an M16A1 clone pretty easily.

I'm not specifically endorsing Model 1 Sales, but they do offer a lot of cool options. This, and a complete polymer lower, and you're in the game for right at 600. Plus, you can alwyas swap uppers for different calibers later if you wanted.
Model 1 Sales: .22LR C.A.R. Upper
That`s entirely true, S&W has existed for so long for a good reason, but I`m already trying to get started on a 5.56 A1 build anyways. I`ve got a good guy to build it, too.
 
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If you've got a 5.56 build in the works anyways, why not just buy either a .22lr upper, or a bolt replacement kit for your 5.56? You can just swap the bolt and mag on a 5.56 and shoot .22lr out of it..
 
Old 06-15-2013, 10:52 PM   #25
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If you've got a 5.56 build in the works anyways, why not just buy either a .22lr upper, or a bolt replacement kit for your 5.56? You can just swap the bolt and mag on a 5.56 and shoot .22lr out of it..
That`s what I intend to do. Have one lower, with a few uppers in different calibers. I just thought the rifle I started the thread about was pretty neat on it`s own.
 
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15-22 lower is not compatible with a AR15 upper.

however the 15-22 does have many interchangeable parts with an AR-15

for example:

grip
buttstock
optics
mag catch
mag release
trigger assembly
flash suppressor


you can also put an aftermarket AR15 full floating rail on the 15-22 with the use of a barrel nut adapter.

gun field strips just like an AR15 as well...

push the two pins and the upper and lower separate.

pull the charging handle and the carrier/bolt assembly comes out just like it's bigger brother.
 
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