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Old 02-21-2010, 06:32 PM   #1
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Question Best AR-15 'Kit'?

I'm considering assembling an AR-15. I understand there are 'Kits' available.
Who sells the most complete kit? Best value for the dollar?
What are some of the 'pitfalls' you ran into while 'building' your AR?
Would you build another? What would you do different, if anything?
 
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Old 02-21-2010, 07:42 PM   #2
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You wanting another AR now?
 
Old 02-22-2010, 09:17 AM   #3
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This is the only "kit" company I haven't heard horror stories about Del-Ton, Inc. AR-15 Rifle Kits. Just remember you get what you pay for, and if you're naive... sometimes you don't. If I were to build another I'd steer clear of the kits and just make my own kit from here Bravo Company USA, Inc. AR-15, M16, M4 Tactical Gear, Parts, Accessories. out of parts marked BCM and LMT.
 
Old 02-22-2010, 09:32 AM   #4
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Model 1 sales has decent kits
 
Old 02-22-2010, 07:16 PM   #5
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When I was home on leave I finished building two Del-ton kits, one Carbine one mid-length, both 16" CL barrels. I put ~200 rounds through each without any malfunctions, I couldn't be happier with their kits.
 
Old 02-22-2010, 07:43 PM   #6
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AR15 Sales has amazing service. He handles Rock River, LMT, and Stag. I built one of the Stag M-4 kits up for my dad, and it has been great. It depends upon what you are going to do with the carbine or rifle, but if you have a general idea you can call Pete and he will walk you through it. He's easy to deal with, and very affordable.
 
Old 02-22-2010, 08:08 PM   #7
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I have never ordered a complete kit, but I have ordered several complete uppers, lowers & lower parts from PK Firearms | Online Store .

Reasonable prices & excellent service!
 
Old 02-22-2010, 11:06 PM   #8
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I have heard horror stories about these guys as well but had no problems other than the gas key being staked wrong. Built 2 M-4geries with their kits and they work fine. I would buy another kit. I don't need my AR's for "work." I will probably get the modular kit next since I ended up turning my M-4 type kit into one anyways. akpartskits.com
 
Old 02-23-2010, 07:41 AM   #9
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Ive been wondering about the AR kits too, had a lower for a while now begging me to do something with it.
 
Old 02-23-2010, 09:06 AM   #10
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Ive been wondering about the AR kits too, had a lower for a while now begging me to do something with it.
You can always sell it to me!
 
Old 02-23-2010, 09:18 AM   #11
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thats a big negative, haha!
 
Old 02-23-2010, 01:29 PM   #12
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Had to ask! Ya never know!
 
Old 02-23-2010, 04:29 PM   #13
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I have heard horror stories about these guys as well but had no problems other than the gas key being staked wrong. Built 2 M-4geries with their kits and they work fine. I would buy another kit. I don't need my AR's for "work." I will probably get the modular kit next since I ended up turning my M-4 type kit into one anyways. akpartskits.com
Modular kit? You mean the main components are already in place and you 'finish' the build?
 
Old 02-23-2010, 05:18 PM   #14
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Question Is there an advantage ....

Is there an advantage to a chome lined chamber & bore ?
Better wear?
 
Old 02-23-2010, 05:20 PM   #15
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Is there an advantage to a chome lined chamber & bore ?
Better wear?
Better wear, slightly less accurate.
 
Old 02-24-2010, 12:25 PM   #16
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is it worth the extra money, no,,, unless you plan on shooting 25,000 plus rounds not likely
 
Old 02-24-2010, 03:25 PM   #17
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is it worth the extra money, no,,, unless you plan on shooting 25,000 plus rounds not likely


For a full-auto squirt gun, yes it's worth it.

For one of our semi-auto toys, not so much.
 
Old 02-24-2010, 10:31 PM   #18
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Modular kit? You mean the main components are already in place and you 'finish' the build?
They call the kit modular. It has all the parts that I would replace on my AR anyway. It is cheaper than buying the $419 kit and upgrading the forend, front sight base, etc. Has no sights for either using an optic or an optic and BUIS. But yeah, the entire upper half is already built and headspaced you just gotta assemble the lower parts into and onto your stripped lower receiver.
 
Old 02-26-2010, 07:29 AM   #19
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Thanks for the help!
 
Old 02-27-2010, 08:36 PM   #20
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I'm so new to ar's... how do you build an ar? how do you find a kit? or list? do you just hunt and peck for parts?
 
Old 02-27-2010, 09:24 PM   #21
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Unless you have certain parts in mind or want it a certain way, your probably better off just buying one off the shelf at a gun shop. Your going to spend right around the same amount piecing it together, but you also need a few special tools to assemble it properly.
 
Old 02-28-2010, 04:12 PM   #22
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Unless you have certain parts in mind or want it a certain way, your probably better off just buying one off the shelf at a gun shop. Your going to spend right around the same amount piecing it together, but you also need a few special tools to assemble it properly.
If you buy it complete, it has a warranty. Build it yourself, your on your own.
By the time you buy the 'special tools'. It's almost break even.
 
Old 02-28-2010, 08:51 PM   #23
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I disagree. It all depends on what you want to accomplish. If you are after say an A2, or M4 you can easily build the kit with the only really recommended tool being the bolt-catch punch (the special flat side punch). The only other tools are commonly available- punches mainly, and a strap wrench for the castle nut on the M4 receiver extension or a regular flatblade screwdriver for the screws on an A1/A2 stock. Its cheaper to build especially with the prices at the gun shops now. I have built many (I bought the tools back in 1998 while I was on my second deployment) and its easy.
 
Old 02-28-2010, 09:37 PM   #24
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Also the wrenches for buttstock, barrel, torque wrench, punches. To PROPERLY put it together, I'd guess you need atleast 100 - 150 for the tools alone. Also a lot can be said for a warranty. Things can break, and most of the major manufactures offer lifetime warranties.
 
Old 02-28-2010, 11:06 PM   #25
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I'm a little late here but I put together an AR a few months back, the upper I went with was a
Del-Ton assembly (https://www.del-ton.com/ProductDetai...uctCode=DT2000) is the one I went with. I couldn't be happier, the build quality is top notch and I've yet to have any malfunctions.
 
Old 03-27-2010, 04:37 PM   #26
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from scratch an ar can be built for around 500. you don't need a lot of fancy tools. I have built around 30. buy the military tm and pay attention to the critical details.

My first was built for around 300, but, that was a while back
 
Old 02-02-2011, 10:33 AM   #27
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question about the delton kits..all you need is the lower reciever cause it comes with the lower parts. when you get it, the upper and everything is assembled..correct? what kind of tools do you need to install the lower?
 
Old 02-04-2011, 04:36 PM   #28
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Go to Del-Ton and take a look at their 'kit's'.
The short answere is its not THAT ez.
That means you will need a couple of AR exclusive tools. Example: Barrel wrench,
Brass drift punch's
I'm sure there are alot more.
MIDWAY USA has a a whole on-line video about assembling AR's.
http://www.midwayusa.com/general.mvc/index/ar15
You will also need a 'fixture' to hold the Lower while you assemble the rifle.
The kit has all the parts to the rifle ONLY (except the lower)
The upper and barrel may or may no be assembled.
Lower recievers can come 'stripped' (you get to choose which trigger and spring group you want).
More help>>http://www.google.com/search?q=MIDWA...ed=0CC4QqwQwAQ

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Old 02-04-2011, 08:04 PM   #29
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well the one im checking out is the m4, and it says "Includes fully assembled, headspaced and test fired upper receiver, lower parts kit and buttstock. " so i assume that the whole rifle is assembled minus the lower..hm idk
 
Old 02-04-2011, 08:26 PM   #30
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I'd call'em and ask BEFORE ordering.
Then, as you build it, post-up pictures of your build!
That way the next builder can learn from you!
Don't you wish someone had already done that?
I know I do!
Good building!

Kit>>>http://www.del-ton.com/Rifle_Kit_p/rkt100.htm

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