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Old 11-15-2013, 07:16 AM   #41
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Can't carry at work.
Don't wanna carry sitting around at home.
Try to not carry when I know alcohol will be involved.
The same for me.
 
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:21 PM   #42
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RCW 9.41.280: Possessing dangerous weapons on school facilities
This kind of gun free zone needs to be respected as much as you care to respect any RCW.
You can be a victim if you want but for me when I know I will be entering any gun free zone I pack more firepower than I usually do,I mainly carry a .40 or .45 but when I know I will be entering a gun free zone I pack a ported 10mm Glock 20 or the Glock 21 I converted to .460 Rowland,with a snub nose Taurus .41 magnum as a backup weapon.
 
Old 11-21-2013, 09:43 AM   #43
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lol, of course I can make that distinction.

will the media/public/jury see things the way you do if you use your firearm in a gun free zone?
Koorbloh, I have to agree here... the media/public/jury DONT see things the way its been said, and this is why gun owners face such scrutiny and are always facing losing our rights. Its because of the people that dont abide by the laws screw it up for those of us that do.

Those that carry when you shouldnt, I understand your point of view, but there is only right and wrong here, there is no gray area. If you break the law with a firearm, it is no different than any other firearm related felony. Im sorry you all feel like you have to take on the world, this is exactly the mentality of George Zimmerman.

Did you know only 1 in 1,500,000 people who legally carry will every even draw their weapon in a battle scenario? Is it worth breaking the law to do it? NO.

Being former military, it is such a discouragement to see this attitude... no wonder so many people are against guns. They see us owners as thinking we are "above the law".
 
Old 11-21-2013, 12:23 PM   #44
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... Did you know only 1 in 1,500,000 people who legally carry will every even draw their weapon in a battle scenario? Is it worth breaking the law to do it? NO.
...
I'm going to have to ask for a source for that number you quote. Not at all what I seem to remember hearing from several other sources. Maybe your definition of battle would help.
 
Old 11-22-2013, 08:44 AM   #45
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First off, I apologize for coming off so strong, not meant to be "fightin words" or to condemn anyone. I know it came off that way, I just wanted to clear that up. I just feel strongly about it is all.

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I'm going to have to ask for a source for that number you quote. Not at all what I seem to remember hearing from several other sources. Maybe your definition of battle would help.
This came from my Domestic Urban Combat Commander. He cited a military study that had been done. By battle scenario, it is meant that a situation in which a person feels that they, or another is in mortal danger and they can legally draw their weapon in defense of saving a life.

Anyhow, again, I apologize for my choice of words, but I do mean what I said. Also, remember that you may not know where some of the people that are on the forum work, and if they are LEOs or work for the ATF for example, posting things you do unlawfully may land you in trouble you never expected. I would hate to see anyone lose their gun rights all together when it could be prevented.

Hope all is good.
 
Old 11-22-2013, 10:01 AM   #46
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I understand that you don't have the details of the study then if it was just presented to you, but I would like to see it. I am working off of the estimates I have seen of defensive gun uses, which to me, would indicate drawing your weapon.

CDC Study: Use of Firearms For Self-Defense is
This link is an article referencing the latest CDC study ordered by the President. Here is one quote:

“almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year.”

So even at the conservative number of 500,000 you get 500,000/320,000,000 = 0.15% of the population, and up to almost 1% of the total population who will use a gun to defend themselves each year. Now if you remove all of those unwilling/unable to own guns, and multiply by 60+ years, a gun owner has a reasonable chance to believe they will use a gun to defend themeslves (or their family) in their lifetime.

I just can't believe a 1 in 1.5 million number until I see facts and statistics to back it up.
 
Old 11-22-2013, 03:31 PM   #47
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My job won't allow it. (fire fighter). However, I do carry off duty. I'm looking for a shoulder holster to use while I ride my motorcycle.

Last edited by James; 11-22-2013 at 03:34 PM.
 
Old 12-09-2013, 08:40 PM   #48
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James, I have a couple Galco's, a Miami Classic for my G-21 and a Jackass for my 1911 (old school with the retaining strap that goes under the Condition-one cocked hammer) and both are built like tanks.

Both carry two magazines on the off-side; I actually prefer the Miami Classic because the mags carry horizontally without snaps.

Highly recommended.
 
Old 12-10-2013, 09:25 PM   #49
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Koorbloh, I have to agree here... the media/public/jury DONT see things the way its been said, and this is why gun owners face such scrutiny and are always facing losing our rights. Its because of the people that dont abide by the laws screw it up for those of us that do.

Those that carry when you shouldnt, I understand your point of view, but there is only right and wrong here, there is no gray area. If you break the law with a firearm, it is no different than any other firearm related felony. Im sorry you all feel like you have to take on the world, this is exactly the mentality of George Zimmerman.

Did you know only 1 in 1,500,000 people who legally carry will every even draw their weapon in a battle scenario? Is it worth breaking the law to do it? NO.

Being former military, it is such a discouragement to see this attitude... no wonder so many people are against guns. They see us owners as thinking we are "above the law".
If you don't carry your gun into gunfree zones then you are just giving the criminals more power,believe it or not but some laws should be broken as they are just restraints the government puts over the constitution which is the law of the land,this is one of few,have fun being the next victim when some decides to do another mass shooting.(yeah it will be in a gunfree zone like every other mass shooting)
 
Old 12-10-2013, 10:53 PM   #50
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While I wouldn't begrudge someone having that sentiment, I certainly wouldn't encourage anyone to act on it in that way.
 
Old 12-11-2013, 08:32 AM   #51
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If you don't carry your gun into gunfree zones then you are just giving the criminals more power
if you do carry your gun into gunfree zones you do, indeed, give criminals more power. there is power in numbers, and one more does, indeed, give them power.



if you believe that gunfree laws should be broken and that's fine, then I believe that murder laws should be broken.
 
Old 12-14-2013, 02:09 PM   #52
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There are gun-free zones and then there are statute-protected gun-free zones. The statute protected ones are schools, as described in Washington as RCW 9.41.280 and carrying there is not a felony, it is a gross misdemeanor; so equating carrying in a gun-free-zone school with felonies is hyperbole.
The penalties are not fun and not recommended. But also not felonies.

Then there are gun-free zones, not protected by anything other than being trespassed out of there by a manager. Those fine establishments include:


•2K Metal Works, LLC
•5 Point Cafe
•74th Street Ale House
•95 Slide
•A-Pizza Mart
•Alive and Well
•Alta Bicycle Share
•Alta Planning + Design
•Atlantic Crossing
•Babeland
•Bar Ferd'nand
•Bar Sajor
•Barboza
•Baskin-Robbins - Queen Anne/Magnolia
•Big Mario's Pizza
•Big Picture Theatre
•Bluebird Ice Cream
•Brenthaven
•Bulldog News
•Burgundian
•Bus Stop Espresso
•Cafe Flora
•Cafe Paloma
•Cafe Racer
•Caffe Vita
•Central Cinema
•Central Lutheran Church
•Century Ballroom
•Cherry Street Café
•Chocolati - Wallingford
•Columbia City Bakery
•Columbia City's Ark Lodge Cinemas
•CommuniChi Acupuncture
•Crisp Harvest Market
•Cupcake Royale
•D-D Barbershop
•Derby Salon
•Die Bierstube
•Dr. Quick Books Inc.
•Elliott Bay Books
•Erich Ginder Studio
•FabCab
•Fancy
•Fat Ducks Bakery
•First United Methodist Church
•Fish Fry
•Freddy's Junior
•Ha! Restaurant
•Henry and Oscars
•Havana
•Latona Pub
•Law Offices of Holmes & Witchley, PLLC
•League of Women Voters of Seattle-King County
•Lifelong AIDS Alliance
•Lindas
•Lost Lake Cafe & Lounge
•Ltd. Art Gallery
•Manhattan Seattle
•Mars Bar
•Maya’s Restaurant Inc.
•Media Agents Inc.
•Merkel Services Auto Detailing
•Mill Creek OB/GYN
•Moe Bar
•Molly Moons - all 6 locations
•Montlake Mousse
•Neumo's
•New Seattle Massage
•Nube Green
•Oddfellows
•Office Nomads
•Pacific Inn Pub
•Parent Map
•Pete Gross House
•Platinum Records
•Portage Bay - All 3 locations
•Quinn's
•Rain City Burgers
•Reel Grrls
•Revolutions Coffee
•Royal Bar & Patio
•Ruby Pear Woodworks
•Salvatore
•Satay
•SCCA House
•Seattle Antique Market
•Seattle Lee Family Association
•Seattle Medium
•Shirley Marvin Extended-Stay Hotel
•Sitka & Spruce Restaurant
•Smith
•Southern Street Kids
•SpeakerLab
•Spud's Fish and Chips
•Stone Turtle Health
•Subway - Green Lake
•Sugar on Top Salon
•Sugarcomb Salon
•Sutra LLC
•Sweatbox Yoga
•Tacos Guaymas
•Tangletown Elysian Brewery
•The Blue Glass
•The Harvest Vine
•The Hillside Bar
•The London Plane
•The Saint
•Totokaelo
•Trabant Coffee
•Tutta Bella Neapolitan Pizzeria in Columbia City
•Wildrose
•UPS Store - Roosevelt
•Urban Rest Stop
•Veranda Montessori LLC
•Voltaire, LLC
•Wild Ginger
•Wildlife Cycles
•Wildrose
•Zoe


I am not so certain that a person bent on mass homicide and then suicide will be put off too much by being trespassed out of Subway Greenlake or for that matter being slapped with a gross misdemeanor and having their CPL revoked for three years while they sit in Walla Walla or lie in the icebox at the city coroner's office.
 
Old 12-14-2013, 05:46 PM   #53
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Don't give a shit about any of those places and chances are they have nothing I would ever need.
 
Old 12-14-2013, 09:38 PM   #54
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Don't give a shit about any of those places and chances are they have nothing I would ever need.
Come on now boz.. we know you love babeland... don't bullshit us
 
Old 12-15-2013, 06:46 AM   #55
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Do they have good deals on ammo?
 
Old 12-15-2013, 07:05 PM   #56
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if you do carry your gun into gunfree zones you do, indeed, give criminals more power. there is power in numbers, and one more does, indeed, give them power.



if you believe that gunfree laws should be broken and that's fine, then I believe that murder laws should be broken.
You are a special kind of stupid,only a complete moron would go gunless in a gunfree zone,if you want to be killed that badly by the next James Holmes that is your choice,but it is a fucking stupid one.
 
Old 12-15-2013, 07:36 PM   #57
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You are a special kind of stupid,only a complete moron would go gunless in a gunfree zone,if you want to be killed that badly by the next James Holmes that is your choice,but it is a fucking stupid one.
Wow. What's the secret to your enlightenment, aksu747? I only ask because I am stupid like Koorblah and many others and hope one day to be as wise as you, oh great one.
 
Old 12-15-2013, 08:00 PM   #58
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You are a special kind of stupid,only a complete moron would go gunless in a gunfree zone,if you want to be killed that badly by the next James Holmes that is your choice,but it is a fucking stupid one.
lol. ok. It's been pretty established that I'm stupid for thinking that being a criminal makes you a criminal, regardless of the severity. It's also been established that, frankly, there is a lot more reasons for me not to carry than to carry, even in areas that you'd be clutching your widdle pistol for dear life. But, it's ok, because I'm stupid.

 
Old 12-15-2013, 09:42 PM   #59
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lol. ok. It's been pretty established that I'm stupid for thinking that being a criminal makes you a criminal, regardless of the severity. It's also been established that, frankly, there is a lot more reasons for me not to carry than to carry, even in areas that you'd be clutching your widdle pistol for dear life. But, it's ok, because I'm stupid.

So basically you will obey any law even if it compromises you or your families safety,that will come in handy when the government decides to start confiscating guns.
 
Old 12-15-2013, 09:48 PM   #60
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Wow. What's the secret to your enlightenment, aksu747? I only ask because I am stupid like Koorblah and many others and hope one day to be as wise as you, oh great one.
Oh gee I'm so glad I decided to move back to the PNW,where all the smart people live.
 
Old 12-16-2013, 08:16 AM   #61
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So basically you will obey any law even if it compromises you or your families safety,that will come in handy when the government decides to start confiscating guns.
*shrug*

like I said. I'm stupid.
 
Old 12-19-2013, 06:27 PM   #62
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Nothing stops me from carrying. If it's too hot for pants with a holster, I wear cargo shorts with Velcro pockets. The only time I don't carry is while swimming. :-)
 
Old 12-21-2013, 09:48 PM   #63
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Do they have good deals on ammo?
Not so much, but they do have the Hello Kitty lower you've been looking for...
 
Old 12-26-2013, 10:42 AM   #64
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Carrying concealed is an interesting issue. I always ask myself this... How many years did I live in California? Where getting a permit to carry is pretty hard? Did I survive as a child/teenager/mom? Did I live of my own devices, without a gun? YES is the answer. I survived off basic self defense knowledge. But 12 yrs after moving to Oregon, I see a change in dynamics. I dont feel as safe as I used to. Besides, shooting in the PNW is like bowling in San Fran. It's a basic here.
 
Old 01-25-2014, 02:03 PM   #65
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Can't carry at work, but pretty much carry when not working.
 
Old 11-13-2014, 09:22 PM   #66
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Good questions Brent. I cannot carry at work, it's prohibited. One night crossing from store entrance to car parked way down the parking lot my wife and i late at night, sketchy transients made me realize that Jet Li could make it, but not I and I would not be able to protect my wife.
So i carry when we are out and about and especially at night and every chance I can depending on my dress, and I know people say dress around the gun, but there's times that's not feasable.
I carry with one in the pipe, no sense in not doing so that's just my opinion, when I am carrying.
I think the biggest mental block is just realizing what can happen and we are naturally averse to hurting anyone.
But the responsibility of protecting family and self supercedes that reluctance, and is a responsibility we have whether we are armed or not.
The only difference is that when you are armed your actively accepting it and doing something about it, and the former is just wishful thinking that America is still in the 1950's. Good luck with that.
It's not an easy thing to do, at least not for me for many reasons both personal and professional, but it is a responsibility that I cannot avoid or ignore.
Thank God and those that fought and gave their lives that we still have this freedom.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 06:51 AM   #67
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Nothing. Unless I have work at a military base that prohibits me from carrying on their property, nothing.
 
Old 06-13-2015, 09:36 AM   #68
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For some folks it may be a question of money. Having three handuns or morenwith accessories can add up.

Or the weather. You can inly wear so much baggy clothing.
I make it a point on picking out the cc'rs in walmart.
The first clues are the baseball cap and windbreaker.

As for the money problems perhaps slowly adding accessories and guns as you go.
 
Old 06-15-2015, 10:13 AM   #69
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lol. ok. It's been pretty established that I'm stupid for thinking that being a criminal makes you a criminal, regardless of the severity. It's also been established that, frankly, there is a lot more reasons for me not to carry than to carry, even in areas that you'd be clutching your widdle pistol for dear life. But, it's ok, because I'm stupid.

The only places that you carry a firearm into, will be a criminal and will break a law are listed here: RCW 9.41.300: Weapons prohibited in certain places

Everywhere else is fair game, not against the law and you will not be a criminal. That said, if you post a sign I'll take my money elsewhere. You don't deserve my business.
 
Old 06-20-2015, 08:01 PM   #70
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I find it funny that soldiers carry guns for a year or more every day loaded. in terrible and very stress full situations in foreign countrys. But when they get back to the states they have to apply for permits or permission to carry a gun. Who else is better qualified?
 
Old 08-04-2015, 05:35 AM   #71
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I don't because I can't carry at work. If I am there and NOT working, I can carry. But not while I am "on the clock". I don't like the idea of leaving it locked up in my car when I'm at work either. So for now I leave it home.
 
Old 10-12-2015, 11:45 PM   #72
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I really don't understand. First off, as a CC, why would anyone know and comment? Not even my friends do I have conversations about my CCing. I pretty much always carry except at the courthouse. Have I gone into an establishment that would prefer me unarmed, yes. But it's concealed and therefore they don't know and I don't really think about it. It's just part of me. The longer you put it on/in everyday, the more normal it becomes and hopefully, the better you are at concealing it and keeping your mouth shut about it. CC, especially in Oregon, should be a non-issue.

However, if you move hear from CA, I can understand the fear of daily carry.

I always have my baseball cap on and at the very least, even when it's hot outside, If CC, I am wearing one of my long sleeve work shirts that is never tucked in.
 
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