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Old 02-27-2011, 11:06 PM   #1
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guns and pot?

I hope this is the right forum to ask. I recently talked to somebody who said that it's a felony to possess marijuana and a firearm at the same time. Like say you legally had a firearm (no prior felonies or anything) and you had a little stash of pot at your house. If the cops found you had both in your house it's a felony and they would take your gun away and throw you in jail. I don't think that is true. I've checked Washington laws and googled it and couldn't find anything. Without this turning into an argument about marijuana use, does anybody know the law in this context? I'm sure that if there was an intent to sell charge it would be a different story, so I'm just talking about simple possession which is not a felony. This guy was from the south so I think the laws there are more strict.
 
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Old 02-28-2011, 03:26 AM   #2
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OK; let's think this out. you know that form you fill out when you perchase a firearm? well one of the questions is ( are you using any illegal drugs?) and you had to say no or you don't qualify to own a firearm. SOOOOOO it would depend on the officer but, I think the answer is a big yes it is a felony.
 
Old 02-28-2011, 06:53 AM   #3
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lol.

fyi, don't answer the doorbell when it rings.....
 
Old 02-28-2011, 08:52 AM   #4
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I'm pretty sure it's a felony. I don't have the text to back that up but I wouldn't even chance it.
 
Old 02-28-2011, 09:07 AM   #5
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:07 AM   #6
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I'm pretty sure it's a felony. I don't have the text to back that up but I wouldn't even chance it.
same. I'm tempted to start asking cops that I know...either way, one charge is more likely to be dropped than 2
 
Old 02-28-2011, 09:10 AM   #7
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Michigan Drug and Gun Offenses | Aggressive Criminal Defense Law Firm Serving Wayne, Oakland, Macomb, Washtenaw, Ingham, and Livingston counties.

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Drug offenses are made more severe by the presence of guns and violence. Where guns and violence are involved, the police are more likely to suspect a "drug ring" and investigate more aggressively. The prosecution is also likely to charge more aggressively. The gun charges alone could greatly increase the length of your sentence. But if you are involved in a drug and gun offense, you could also be facing charges for trafficking, export and import crimes, money laundering, RICO and conspiracy. Such charges could also change your state drug case into a federal drug case.

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Old 02-28-2011, 12:33 PM   #8
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Just think they will not only take your gun, but prohibit you from ever legally owning one since you are now a fellon.
 
Old 02-28-2011, 06:17 PM   #9
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I wouldn't want to trade my 2nd Amendment right to bear arms for the "right to remain silent". Seems like a lousy trade to me.
 
Old 02-28-2011, 07:12 PM   #10
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Drugs are bad mkay!
 
Old 03-01-2011, 08:01 AM   #11
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Just think they will not only take your gun, but prohibit you from ever legally owning one since you are now a fellon.
Since when is possession of marijuana a felony?
 
Old 03-01-2011, 04:49 PM   #12
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Since when is possession of marijuana a felony?

Possession of one ounce or more of marijuana is a Class B felony, punishable by a maximum 10-year prison sentence and a $250,000 fine. If you are convicted of possessing more than an ounce of marijuana, and you have not been convicted of a drug offense before, you may ask for a “conditional discharge.” This means the judge will place you on probation for up to five years with the understanding that if you obey all the terms and conditions of your probation, the charges will be dismissed at the end of the probationary period. If the charges are dismissed, you may truthfully say that you were never convicted of that charge.
 
Old 03-01-2011, 05:42 PM   #13
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Washington


Possession
Less than 40 g misdemeanor* MMS 1 Day - maximum 90 days $250-$500
40 g or more felony 5 years maximum $10,000
 
Old 03-01-2011, 06:29 PM   #14
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Washington


Possession
Less than 40 g misdemeanor* MMS 1 Day - maximum 90 days $250-$500
40 g or more felony 5 years maximum $10,000
Oh right, I forgot how fucking stupid our federal government is, and treats marijuana as a Schedule 1 drug, right up there with heroin and LSD, as having "no recognized medical use" despite it having more medical uses than any single substance known to man.

At least some states like WA are slowly pulling their heads out of the asses.
 
Old 03-02-2011, 04:28 PM   #15
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I quit smoking pot about the time I joined the Navy. Look at it this way. The more you spend on pot the less you have for guns, ammo, etc...
 
Old 03-02-2011, 09:45 PM   #16
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It's time herb was legalized. Period.
 
Old 03-03-2011, 04:29 AM   #17
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It's time herb was legalized. Period.
yea and then the government can regulate it, tax the shit out of it and make all the haters feel good about it.

pot is one of the most socially acceptable drugs out there,
Not only is it used for medical patients, chronic pain sufferers, but also as a social drug.
Hell i bet if you were to test our government employees you would find that over 50% of then use pot as a social drug.

The only down side to pot being legalized if that i would have a harder time finding chips and Twinkies.

I do not smoke but do have several people i know that do, I do think that it should be legalized though.
Hell if it is, the violent crimes rate might just drop to some of the lowest levels since like forever.

Does pot and guns mix? I don't think so. should they ever be together? again i don't think so.

but with pot being one of few drugs, that is not normally related to violent crimes who am i to say that they (guns & pot) cant go together.

any how im rambling and the pain meds are making me loopy

Take it easy out there guys, stay safe and have an awesome day.
 
Old 03-03-2011, 10:56 AM   #18
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I don't think pot and firearms mix any better than alcohol and firearms. Both are bad ideas.

With that said.. how many of you have seen/heard of shooters going out plinking and drinking beer at the same time? I hear it all the time. Just plain stupid.

But... do you go to jail if Johnny Law finds a couple fifths of Jack Daniels in your house full of guns? Nope. Herb shouldn't be any different.
 
Old 03-03-2011, 03:49 PM   #19
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I don't think pot and firearms mix any better than alcohol and firearms. Both are bad ideas.

With that said.. how many of you have seen/heard of shooters going out plinking and drinking beer at the same time? I hear it all the time. Just plain stupid.

But... do you go to jail if Johnny Law finds a couple fifths of Jack Daniels in your house full of guns? Nope. Herb shouldn't be any different.
I agree with this statement, though to get the actual legal answer just contact the Attorney General. Office of Attorney General Rob McKenna
 
Old 03-04-2011, 07:38 PM   #20
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What If your legal

If you have the right to use marijuana medically .... And legally own Firearms do they cancel each other out even if nor used together ?
 
Old 03-10-2011, 09:04 PM   #21
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I believe Ca just added a higher tax to Medical maryjane

L.A. pot dispensaries fight proposed tax on medical marijuana | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times
 
Old 03-10-2011, 09:17 PM   #22
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I'd think if you're a legal OMMP card holder or caregiver then there should be no problem.

And I agree with several others who have stated it's time to legalize it. Legalize it, tax it and watch the state climb it's way out of the hole they've put us all in.
 
Old 03-11-2011, 04:44 PM   #23
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if they can tax tabacco so high and I pay for it I see no reason to legalize it and tax the hell out of it also. and this would also clear our prisons up some to boot.
 
Old 03-15-2011, 09:08 PM   #24
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Glad to hear some of you are pro legalizing pot. I actually haven't smoked in at least a month because I'm looking for a job and I want to be clean if I have to take a drug test. I have no problem giving it up for good. It just helps me with insomnia. And by small stash I meant just a few grams or whatever. so yeah..less than an ounce wouldn't be a felony. I'm guessing that doesn't put my gun rights at risk. Of course I wouldn't smoke and shoot at the same time or even have drugs on my person while being around firearms. That's just stupid. I worry more about people drinking alcohol and shooting. I honestly don't think I'd want to shoot anything or even touch a gun if I was stoned. lol Give me my xbox controller and some grub instead.
 
Old 04-20-2011, 06:37 PM   #25
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Don't the guns give a good enough high? :)
 
Old 04-20-2011, 09:03 PM   #26
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yea and then the government can regulate it, tax the shit out of it and make all the haters feel good about it.

pot is one of the most socially acceptable drugs out there,
Not only is it used for medical patients, chronic pain sufferers, but also as a social drug.
Hell i bet if you were to test our government employees you would find that over 50% of then use pot as a social drug.

The only down side to pot being legalized if that i would have a harder time finding chips and Twinkies.

I do not smoke but do have several people i know that do, I do think that it should be legalized though.
Hell if it is, the violent crimes rate might just drop to some of the lowest levels since like forever.

Does pot and guns mix? I don't think so. should they ever be together? again i don't think so.

but with pot being one of few drugs, that is not normally related to violent crimes who am i to say that they (guns & pot) cant go together.

any how im rambling and the pain meds are making me loopy

Take it easy out there guys, stay safe and have an awesome day.
i must agree...

i consider marijuana like alcohol, its just not a big deal imo, but yeah the federal government says otherwise...
 
Old 04-20-2011, 11:26 PM   #27
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Agreed. Anything that impairs your natural state of mind in any way shape or form is bad when mixed with guns. Whether you're drunk or high, a jury is going to drop the hammer on you if you have an AD and kill someone.
 
Old 04-21-2011, 05:13 PM   #28
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Possessing a firearm and marijuana at the same time is not a felony in Washington State. However, if you are in possession of more than 40 grams of marijuana you will be charged with a felony for intent to distribute. Having a firearm in your possession when being charged with a felony can up the degree of the felony. Keep in mind that you can be charged with any crime an officer wants to charge you with, and a lot of court cases either get dismissed or dropped by the prosecutor because they wouldn't stand up in court. Another way you could be charged with a felony for having both marijuana and a gun at the same time is for falsifying the federal form 4473 when purchasing a gun. If you checked no to the question of "Are you an unlawful user of marijuana..." and you have it in your possession the feds could charge you with falsifying a federal form, which is a felony. Again, its easy to charge someone with a crime like this, but is much harder to prove when standing in court and cases like these often times are dropped or dismissed all together. If you do have a medical marijuana card you are considered a legal user of marijuana, and therefore you can have both your guns and your pot.
 
Old 04-24-2011, 04:51 PM   #29
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Hell with the pot,I like my guns more!!!!!!
 
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