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Urge Your Representative To Cosponsor H.R. 822, The National Right to Carry Reciprocity

NRA-ILA :: Urge Your Representative To Cosponsor H.R. 822, The National Right to Carry Reciprocity Act Of 2011

Nutty4Guns

I will definitely be sounding off to them about this one. I don't get out of the state too much, but when I do I would like to be able to carry.

TheRedSkull

indeed...

James

Got an email into: 'Doc' Hastings my state Rep.

buckfynn

Email sent. I would really like to see this bill get passed.

Brianaintright

I know this is going to sound a little off, but I'm hesitant to support this bill or ask anyone to support it. I'm in favor a reciprocity, but I don't want the federal government stepping in and telling states what they will and will not do. The fed has screwed up way too much and overstepped themselves too frequently for me to just jump on board because it benefits me.

svytlana

so do think we need to get idaho drivers liscence to run to post falls from spokane. no forced reprocity??

Brianaintright

If a supreme court decision came down saying this is covered under the 2nd, then great, but that's not how this is going. Would a bill such as this even be constitutional?

If a state chose to not accept out of state driver's licenses, that would affect interstate commerce and receprocity could legally be enacted under the 10th. Individuals carrying a gun....not so much. Each state should be allowed to make it's own decisions on what is best for it's citizens. If a state does not accept your concealed handgun permit, screw them, vacation elsewhere. Why does everyone look to the Fed to fix their problems?

Teacher Todd

I am all for this bill. Personally it would be better if we just had the 2nd amendment as the only law, but unfortunately we are not there yet.

svytlana

how is driving and reprocity of licence on something that is a privalige any less of of a problem than something that is a right. if you are going off the interstate comerce idea. I use ranges in idaho and buy ammo there also. at least a gun is a right not a privelage.

Brianaintright

So if it's a right covered by the constitution, why do they need the bill? Why do we need a permit at all?

GixxerPete

While I agree with you in principal about state's rights, the sad truth is many states have chosen to interpret the 2nd amendment in some, shall we say, less than constitutional ways. This leaves a hodge podge of differing laws, where for example I can be perfectly legal carrying concealed here in WA, but the minute I cross the OR border I'm now a criminal? That's bullshit. If it takes the fed ordering states to grant reciprocity for concealed permits, I'm all for it.

GixxerPete

You're right, we shouldn't need a permit at all. But again the reality is we do, and until such time as we don't (not holding my breath on that one) at least this allows people to travel and not worry about being ok in one state, a felon in the next, ok in the following state, etc.

Think of it as chipping away at the stone toward the goal of no permit, just like the anti-gun crowd tries to chip away at the stone of the 2nd with bullshit like the assault weapons ban, high-cap magazine bans, etc.

Teacher Todd

Well said.

Brianaintright

Pete,

I get all that, this has a big upside, but what if it's also a double edged sword? The more we ask the federal government to step in, the more control they'll have. I'm not some constitutionalist nutjob, just a guy tired of seeing .gov sticking it's fingers into our personal lives. What if they enact this law but change the requirements for a CWP to "standardize" the permit? Now that they have a hand in things what if they say you need a week of training with one of their intructors and the class is only given at one inconvienent location a few times a year or is extremely expensive? Pretty easy for a state like ours to say they want to match the federal requirements and enact a state law to do so. If you think this kind of thing can't happen, just look at how the feds screwed with states over speed limits, if they didn't fall in line with federal standards, they got their highway tax money yanked, Bye Bye Montana Autobahn!

I'd much rather see the various gun forums start lobbying their respective state legislatures to accept out of state CWPs. State by State may be a more tedious process but in the long run I think it would have huge benefits.

RCJIM

im just posting to up my count...

McWeaze

Thanks for the free bump :wink:

berma051

tru but the fact is the employment of this bill is just a prestance for control i mean not being able to carry a gun across state lines is ridiculous just think about it. im not tryen to sound like a conspiracy theorist but the amount of control that can be implemented is kinda crazy and as far as having limited goverment i think goverment should have its hands in everything the goverment is a tool of the people that we use to keep our rights in check not a seprate entity (althou it feels like that) we need to take our goverment back nsted of rejecting it althou easer said then done lol when u really step back things are worse then we think

boomer1

I worry about continuing federal encroachment, including this state's rights issue.

YMMV,

boomer

sunofnun

I agree with your concerns bri.. Basically your saying:

"If the feds make a blanket law to 'help' the problem they are now superseding local policies. Lets say a year or two down the line they can cite this legislation as a base to change or update a policy. Maybe the general public would vote to limit or remove rights because of the scary terrorists.."

I could see that as a roadmap to stronger overall legislation, and some fucktards turning the whole thing around to use against gun owners.

deadshot2