And so it begins...

Jan 2009
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Marysville, WA
"How are you going to hunting with something like that?" asked Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey, pointing to the assault weapons displayed to his left. "You kill something, there's nothing left to eat."
How about mentioning that the so-often criticized AR15 fires a round of a much smaller caliber than most hunters would ever use even on deer, and in fact that round is even illegal to hunt medium to large game with in many states, because of its lack of lethality.
 
Jan 2009
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Kirkland, WA
How about mentioning that the so-often criticized AR15 fires a round of a much smaller caliber than most hunters would ever use even on deer, and in fact that round is even illegal to hunt medium to large game with in many states, because of its lack of lethality.

Hence my "Good god..." comment. I'm just amazed a cop said that. Bizarre.

The amount of mis-information is staggering to me. It's like, what do they think will happen if you shoot something with a 223/556 round? It'll blow up?

And aren't they missing the point that we don't even care about hunting with them? It's about protecting our 2nd amendment rights. I personally want larger magazines and firepower than any criminal might use against me. And I'd prefer to have the same weaponry our government might use against its own population...
 
Jan 2013
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Everett, WA
Hence my "Good god..." comment. I'm just amazed a cop said that. Bizarre.

The amount of mis-information is staggering to me. It's like, what do they think will happen if you shoot something with a 223/556 round? It'll blow up?

And aren't they missing the point that we don't even care about hunting with them? It's about protecting our 2nd amendment rights. I personally want larger magazines and firepower than any criminal might use against me. And I'd prefer to have the same weaponry our government might use against its own population...

I think they are truly afraid of the idea of their fellow Americans being responsible for their own safety. I grew up in a very poor and very liberal community so i can understand someone who is reluctant to be their own first responder. Its just easier to bend over and take it than to stand up and fight back.
 
Jan 2009
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Marysville, WA
And aren't they missing the point that we don't even care about hunting with them? It's about protecting our 2nd amendment rights. I personally want larger magazines and firepower than any criminal might use against me. And I'd prefer to have the same weaponry our government might use against its own population...
Unfortunately none of those three points will change anyone's mind about the issue.

Generally (a huge generalization here), people that are anti-gun (or pro gun-control) tend to think of themselves as pragmatic, socially progressive, educated and they believe society has advanced beyond the need for guns and other such barbaric devices. I try to appeal to their pragmatic side. Surely they believe in the scientific method... ? I find the lack of scientific approach to the problem the most outrageous part of this whole situation. The very people that are the first to chastise someone for eschewing science are the ones that are completely ignoring science on this issue.

It all boils down to a fundamental human trait: We are emotional creatures. Some of us fight vehemently to protect a set of completely non-scientific ideals (e.g. religion), while others among us will do the same to keep scary looking things away from us. The hypocrisy is deafening.

Politicians know this all too well. They utilize our emotional weaknesses against us with every hot-button issue, from abortion to guns to welfare to healthcare to war.

I digress. I'm rambling. :rock:
 
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