Lets Rip A Page Out Of The Liberal Handbook

Feb 2013
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Bend,Oregon
So I've recently gotten two bills with stamps on them. One from OccupyGeorge.Com and the other from StampStampede.org. Both sites provide red ink stamps to stamp bills in and return them to circulation. I think it is time for the us pro-gun to get involved in this method of politics. I think every dollar I used to buy guns should be Stamped and Marked just to get the message out this is a constitutional right. I am looking for some stamp and slogan design ideas.

I think there are many ideas like a stamp that says. "To Be Used In Funding A GUN LOBBY" OR "Scare A Liberal Protect Your Rights"

Then some others like...
Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants
Homeland Security Begins with 2nd Amendment
Protect Your Rights Buy Ammo

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Check out these sites.... They got the idea
 
Jan 2009
196
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Marysville, WA
If your goal is to further the divisiveness between the sides, then I'd say this will work great. :)

Seriously, if you saw a stamped bill that said something contrary to your stance, would it get you to stop and think, or would it piss you off?
 
Feb 2013
8
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Bend,Oregon
LOL, I think it would do a little of both. But I do know that it got me too the website where they had a chance to change my point of view. I did learn somethings. Its not to target the steadfast liberal but maybe the unsure or uninformed.

I also cant forget the 15-19 year old first time voters. If it would get 1% 22 Million Americans aged 15-19 to realize that taking our gun are not gonna fix anything it would help. I don't think us vs them is gonna fix anything. I think informing the public that we are not criminals. We are americans that believe in protecting our rights. We have to face it if the pro-gun doesn't get some new blood we are finished...
 
Jan 2013
123
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Silverton, OR
Waste of time the first time one of these bills hits a bank its pulled and destroyed. Some stores will even pull them to be put into the deposit just so they aren't handed out by the stores.

Wife is a bookkeeper at a major grociery store they hate them as they have to take the time to pull them since they do not want to be seen passing them along since they violate the law.
 
Feb 2013
8
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Bend,Oregon
Hear is a link that would say to me that it is legal.

http://stampstampede.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/bill-stamping-memo.pdf




Stephen A. Justino, Esq.
2015 York Street, Denver CO 80205
(303) 377-2933, Ext. 105 Voice / (303) 377-2934 Facsimile
[email protected]
June 4, 2012
MEMORANDUM TO: Ben Cohen
FROM: Stephen A. Justino
RE: QUESTION: IS IT LEGAL TO STAMP U.S. CURRENCY
WITH POLITICAL MESSAGES?
Clearly, the act of stamping political messages to raise awareness of the corrupting impact of the
Supreme-Court-created doctrines of “Corporate Personhood” and “Money as Free Speech”
would be considered “expressive conduct” within the meaning of the First Amendment. United
States v. O'Brien, 391 U.S. 367 (1968).
This question raises important First Amendment considerations, and is a question of first
impression, as I have not been able to find any reported cases on point at the District Court,
Appellate Court, or Supreme Court level.
There are two federal statutes relevant to the question 18 USC 333 and 18 USC 475.
a. Defacement of U.S. currency is regulated by 18 USC 333, which states:
[w]hoever mutilates, cuts, defaces, disfigures, or perforates, or unites or cements
together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of
debt issued by any national banking association, or Federal Reserve bank, or the
Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such bank bill, draft, note, or
other evidence of debt unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or
imprisoned not more than six months, or both. (Emphasis added).
18 USC 333 would likely survive constitutional review because it contains no “contains no
explicit [or implicit] content-based limitation on the scope of prohibited conduct. Instead, the
statute is “content neutral” and appears to have been drafted to protect the owner of the bank
note (the Federal Reserve, in the case of U.S. currency) from having to incur the expense of
withdrawing paper currency from circulation ahead of schedule.
In the absence of a content-based limitation, a less stringent standard for the review of
noncommunicative conduct controls. See, O'Brien, supra, at 377. 18 USC 333 is likely to
survive that less stringent review.
The question then turns to whether a person participates in this bill-stamping campaign can be
convicted of defacing the bills under 18 USC 333. In my opinion obtaining a conviction would
be extremely difficult.
In order for a person to be found criminally liable under 18 USC 333 the government must
 
Jan 2013
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Amboy, WA
prove: a) that the person charged was the person who actually defaced the bill in question; and,
b) that the person who stamped the bill in question did so with the specific intent to “render the
bill . . . unfit to be reissued.”
Unlike people who the participate in the “Where’s George” project, who actually record the
serial numbers of the bills they mark, it will be almost impossible for the Secret Service to
identify individuals participating in this campaign, in that most people will stamp bills outside
the presence of police authorities and then put the bills into the stream of commerce.
An exception to this would be people who stamped their bills in public, such as at festivals, or,
using the mobile “Rube Goldberg Machine.” It is conceivable, but unlikely (given limited
government resources), that the Secret Service could “stake-out” such public stampings in order
to identify the stampers.
Even if the government can prove the identity of the stamper, a conviction for defacing currency
under 18 USC 333 will be difficult for the government to obtain, because of the need for the
government to prove that the stamper acted “with the intent to make the bill unfit for reissue.”
Specific intent, as the term implies, means more than the general intent to commit the act.
The fact that the stamp might, indeed, make the bills unfit for reissue, is not relevant. In the case
of 18 USC 333, Congress defined the crime to punish only those persons who act “with the
intent to make the bill unfit for reissue.” It is that specific mental state, rather than the actual
withdrawing of the bill from circulation, that the Government is required to prove beyond a
reasonable doubt in order to win a conviction. see Patterson v. New York, 432 U.S. 197, 211, n.
12, (1977).
People stamping bills in this case would actually have the opposite intent. Rather than trying to
get the bills taken out of circulation, stampers would be acting with the hope, and the intent, that
the bill would remain in circulation for as long as possible, to promote the stamp’s message to as
many recipients as possible.
For those reasons, I believe that conviction under 18 USC 333 is unlikely.
b. Using paper money to create advertising is prohibited by 18 USC 475 which states:
[w]hoever . . . writes, prints, or otherwise impresses upon . . . to any [coin or currency] of the
United States, any business or professional card, notice, or advertisement, or any notice or
advertisement whatever, shall be fined under this title. (Emphasis added).
It is unlikely that 18 USC 475 would be applicable to this bill marking campaign. The statute, on
its face, appears to prohibit marking, or otherwise altering, U.S. currency for the purpose of
turning it into a vehicle for commercial advertising. Participants in this campaign would be
marking, or otherwise altering, U.S. currency for the purpose of engaging in expressive conduct
protected by the First Amendment.
Assuming, for the sake of argument, that 18 USC 475 is applicable to this case, 18 USC 475 is
different from 18 USC 333, in that 18 USC 475 is not “content- neutral.” Instead it appears to
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be an effort by the Federal Government to protect the "physical integrity" of a privately owned
bank note in order to preserve the bank note’s status as a symbol of the Nation.
This is evidenced by the fact that 18 USC 475 pertains to U.S. currency, only (18 USC 333
applies to bank notes owned by any nation’s federal reserve banking system); and, by the fact
that the statute is not a blanket prohibition of any forms of defacement, but, instead appears to be
an attempt to protect the symbol value U.S. currency, by keeping it from becoming a mere
vehicle for commercial advertising.
In United States v. Eichman, 496 U.S. 310 (1990), the U.S. Supreme Court considered the Flag
Protection Act of 1989 (FPA), a federal law passed in reaction to the Supreme Court’s decision
in Texas v. Johnson. 491 U.S. 397 (1989), which upheld the right of a political protestor to burn
the American flag, In Eichman, the Supreme Court held that, even though the FPA contained no
explicit content-based limitation on the scope of prohibited conduct,” it is nevertheless clear that
the Government's asserted interest is "related `to the suppression of free expression," 491 U.S. at
410.
The Eichman Court then went on to hold that statutes which place content-based restrictions on
expression must be subjected to "the most exacting scrutiny," quoting Boos v. Barry, 485 U.S.
312, 321 (1988). Applying that “most exacting scrutiny,” the Court found that the Government's
stated interest - protecting the "physical integrity" of a privately-owned flag in order to preserve
the flag’s status as a symbol of the Nation interest [could not] justify its infringement on Mr.
Eichman’s First Amendment rights. United States v. Eichman, 496 U.S. 310 at 318.
18 USC 475, on its face, is a content-based restriction on expression, in that it restricts
commercial advertising. Applying it, wrongfully, to prohibit the expressive conduct envisioned
by this bill-stamping campaign, would also be a content-based restriction.
Applying Eichman’s “most exacting scrutiny” would likely result in the statute being
struck down as it relates to this clearly protected political speech.
 
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