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Old 08-10-2013, 08:23 AM   #1
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man tased and tackled at pro gun rally

Man this one pissed me off..


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Yes the gentleman touched the officers shoulder.
They were clearly trolling for someone to put in jail.
He was doing nothing wrong before they started the incident..

They could have used good judgement and given him a warning.. but their giant hardon wouldn't let them do it.. so they tase him and drag him away.

pretty fucking disgusting.
 
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Old 08-10-2013, 08:41 AM   #2
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have no words
 
Old 08-10-2013, 01:34 PM   #3
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Any one know what even started the conversation between him and the police officer. I sure hope that officer was not injured after that terrible shoulder touch. He may have to take some time off work for rehab.
 
Old 08-10-2013, 01:56 PM   #4
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Any one know what even started the conversation between him and the police officer. I sure hope that officer was not injured after that terrible shoulder touch. He may have to take some time off work for rehab.
At the cost of tax payers... He will probably get an early retirement due to disability and get 100% of his pay till the day he dies.............
 
Old 08-10-2013, 04:52 PM   #5
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He shouldn't have put his hand on the cop, period. Don't do stupid shit, don't get tased by cops.
 
Old 08-10-2013, 09:05 PM   #6
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You know, some people might not know that it is a crime to "touch" an officer. In many cases it would not be, unless of course they don't want you too. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

I have a lot of respect for LEOs, but that was a joke and makes a mockery of those who deserve our respect. The sad thing is that they don't even see how they provided a perfect demonstration of the overreaching authority that this guy was most likely speaking against.
 
Old 08-10-2013, 09:16 PM   #7
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I agree with the above of never touching a cop for any reason, but man a little discretion on their part is in order as well. That being said I wish the video showed the lead up to why the police were talking to this man. Was it a power trip by a an officer who did not agree, was it warranted and the guy was doing something illegal or abusive to others?
 
Old 08-11-2013, 08:34 AM   #8
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You know, some people might not know that it is a crime to "touch" an officer. In many cases it would not be, unless of course they don't want you too. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

I have a lot of respect for LEOs, but that was a joke and makes a mockery of those who deserve our respect. The sad thing is that they don't even see how they provided a perfect demonstration of the overreaching authority that this guy was most likely speaking against.


I agree with this..

The officers were claimed to have been informing the guy they had received "complaints about him".

He said I have no complaints..

They continued to push in..





Take the badge off the guy, and it's 4 men pushing around a guy who was minding his own business.
 
Old 08-11-2013, 12:14 PM   #9
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I think I can shed a little light on this....

From my perspective, I saw this coming before the cops even came out. The problem was what in WA we would call disorderly conduct. When a person intentionally disrupts a lawful assembly. Dude was chiming in when douche guy was speaking. Remember the old addage "I don't agree with what you say but I'll defend to the death your right to say it!" Well....that's what's going on.

This guy wasn't arrested for touching the cop, he was arrested for disrupting the assembly. probably would have gotten a ticket and released after the rally but thats usually something you take people in custody for....becuase if you don't problems continue.

Now, once he's been advised he's under arrest, he chose not to comply. he's a big dude and pulling away from the cop trying to put on the second set of handcuffs (becuase they're trying not to be dicks) isn't wise. He'd already made his point, resisting is just another charge he's got to deal with and it's not like he was going to be getting away.

I thought the cops were within use of force guidlines. they even appeared to be trying to be cool about stuff, guy wasn't immediately dumped when he started touching cops, they just pulled his hands behind his back. Moved him to the side, tried to talk to him about why they were doing what they were doing and put on a second set of cuffs for his comfort.....


And, this was an anti-gun rally they were protesting. Imagine this WAS a pro-gun rally and a bunch of hippies showed up and began interfering with your speakers? wouldn't you want them arrested for fucking up your show?

Constitution protects everyone, not just those whose message we agree with.

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Old 08-11-2013, 10:21 PM   #10
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You know, for an old man he looked pretty strong...
 
Old 08-12-2013, 09:18 AM   #11
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Thing is, they were surrounded by a group of screaming protesters. They would have been justified moving up to sticks or throwing strikes but they didn't.

When it was over and guy was in custody, they could have dispersed the crowd but they didn't. They did their jobs, removed the guy causing the problem and walked away. If anything they helped the protesters by the one idiot leaving his siren on making it impossible for the anti-gunners to get their message out!

Being disruptive like this is the tactic of the left. Their base thinks this is acceptable and heroic to shout down others and be disrespectful. The gun owning base is the opposite. Being rude in public alienates them. Gun owners are, for the most part, polite regular people.
 
Old 08-14-2013, 02:14 PM   #12
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I'm curious what procedure you guys have in place for crowds like that. I mean, if the crowd started getting more boisterous and the officers started feeling threatened, what do you do? A crowd like that could have easily overpowered them while they were engaged with cuffing the guy. Do you just fall back and wait for reinforcements or something?
 
Old 08-14-2013, 05:59 PM   #13
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Im not a crowd expert. I've been in a few riots however including WTO. You never let yourself be taken by the crowd or taken down to the ground.

RCW covers it. Remember any protest that meets the criteria for a riot (3 or more participants, fail to disperse etc.) escalates the level of response up to and including deadly force very quickly.

Under RCW 9A.16.040

1) Homicide or the use of deadly force is justifiable in the following cases:

(iv) To lawfully suppress a riot if the actor or another participant is armed with a deadly weapon.

So...at a pro-gun rally where everyone is carrying a firearm on their hip, things could get ugly very quickly. All the more reason for those that carry to be polite.

No cop wants to be in this kind of situation. But a crowd that's closing in is a scary thing and could quickly result in severe bodily harm, just by the mass of people walking on you or hindering your ability to escape.
 
Old 08-14-2013, 11:54 PM   #14
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Yeah, just looked like even in this clip the crowd was one "spark" away from igniting...
 
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