edorfox

OK, one more time...this is a real interesting pistol...wish I had one.

edorfox

No one interested anymore I guess.

Hint: This one goes from 9 to 0 in .5 seconds and could be called an iGun.

Ed

DevilDoc

Beretta.

edorfox

Hecho en Mexico

DevilDoc

Trejo pistol?

edorfox

Yes

YouTube

Wiki:
The Trejo Pistol is the smallest full-auto weapon ever made and was the first machine pistol designed and manufactured. Even though not well known in the United States it was quite successful in Mexico, with over 16.000 pieces manufactured by Armas Trejo S.A. Zacatlan between 1952 and 1972. The apple logo on the side of the slide is related to the fact that Zacatlán de las manzanas (Zacatlán of the apples, State of Puebla, Mexico), is a town famous by its apples and the apple cider produced there.

This little Tactical Machine-Pistol is a blowback action with unlocked firing from a closed bolt. Built for bursts rather than full-auto fire since the magazine capacity is quite limiting. When introduced to the Mexican market there was no prohibition against full-auto capabilities in small calibers like the .22 Long Rifle.

In 1950, Gabriel Trejo, a blacksmith by trade, created in the company of his son Abraham, other than those that existed, because in his own words, "I want to do something out of common".

Full-auto versions of the Modelo-1 is marked Tipo-Rafaga (selective fire type) and a little Lever with a "R" marked for Rafaga. In all practical senses it is identical to a M1911 which is known to many shooters. The rate of fire is very high, ranging from 1300-1400 rounds per minute depending on what type of ammunition you use (higher velocity = higher rate of fire). Bursts can be shot from about three rounds up to a blistering eight burst out and unloading the whole magazine in 0.4 seconds flat. A minus for this type of construction would be the unreliable .22LR rimfire cartridge.

The NFA of 1934 made the import to US small since the 200$ tax of class-2 firearms was far more than the original value of the trejo. The Firearms Act of 68 finally slammed the door into the U.S. (therefore also to much of rest of the world) and finally the Mexican government closed down domestic production of firearms for private purchase. The Trejo was also made in semiauto only, a longer BBL model with larger capacity (11-shot) called Modelo 2 came out and also a Modelo 3 in .32auto and 9mmShort/.380acp. A variant using a high capacity magazine was manufactured for the Mexican military which was chambered in 9mm and featured a 40 round magazine. This variant named the Model 2 "Especial" (special) could be fired in semi-automatic, in bursts or fully automatic.

In 1970 this factory and three more that manufactured other weapons, were closed by Presidential Decree as a result of social problems that were experienced in Mexico between 1968 and 1971, known as Dirty War.

DevilDoc

A bit older, but influential..

deadshot2

Villar-Perosa

DevilDoc

Yeah. Dang, I thought that would be tougher than that..

deadshot2

Only the Italians would use 9mm rounds for aerial combat.

The giveaway was the nuts and washers on the muzzle(s).

DevilDoc

Your turn dude..

deadshot2

OK, Just for fun

FatFugg

I believe that is a generation 3 Illudium q-36 Explosive Space Modulator

deadshot2

Well at least you didn't suggest it was something commonly used at a Proctologist's office

But No, keep guessing.

edorfox

Man, that's a weird device! looks like just a rifle bolt with a grip attached.

Does the bolt lever unlock the "barrel/receiver" and does the barrel/receiver slide rearward to reload? Is the bolt stationary? It also looks like a large caliber...smoothbore??

Ed

deadshot2

The key to its name is in your first sentence.

edorfox

Man, this is tough. It appears to NOT be a weapon itself. The tapered, lugged nose gives me the impression that it is a manually cocked firing pin for something otherworldly...a "device" that locks into the breech of some monster gun to fire it. I sure wouldn't want to hold it when it goes off!

More clues!

Ed

deadshot2

Clue: It IS a weapon all in itself.

Clue: There weren't very many made.

Clue: It is possible that none are in private hands.

Clue: It was made to be used by a very special group of people.

Вы нуждаетесь в большем количестве ключей?
(Do you need more clues?)

DevilDoc

Вы нуждаетесь в большем количестве ключей

Cute..

I've got to stop using that world.guns.ru website. Norton keeps blocking attacks.

edorfox

I found it described on... "world.guns.ru/grenade/rus/device-d" BUT, DON'T CLICK ON THAT LINK! MY AV BLOCKED A HIGH RISK ATTACK ATTEMPT! THEY DESCRIBED IT AS...Device "D" noiseless grenade launcher / pistol with muzzle launcher cup for grenades and a detachable shoulder stock / holster.

Dang...that was a tough one! I noticed there was a groove on the backside of the grip handle and searched for "detachable buttstock", finally found it two miles deep in a Google image search!

I don't want to play anymore...my head hurts!

Ed

sunofnun

Device D Noisless bla bla






LOL thats exactly what happens to me in this damn game. I either get it, or slam the laptop shut and walk away for a couple days.

But I'm a gluton for punishment. Ed I think your up...

deadshot2

This is the armor piercing bullet it shoots.


and here is the grenade it can launch:


As with lots of weapons developed during the "Cold War" this one was really strange. It was developed for the Spetznaz.

Supposedly all the gases were retained in the cartridge after the bullet or grenade were fired/launched.

BTW Devildoc, this site is just fine. Your issue caused by Norton is why I quit using Norton over 10 years ago.

edorfox

OK here's an easy one so someone else can go!

Ed

DevilDoc

S&w 422?

edorfox

No...close though

sunofnun

S&W Model 622 .22LR

edorfox

Well, not exactly but, close enough.

The 422 and 622 models were made with alloy frames and stainless or blued slides. The one I posted, mine, is Model 2206 and is all stainless. It is one of S&W's "sleeper" model 41 wannabe's and in my book just as accurate in the right hands..not mine for sure.

Ed ... sunofnun...you're up! I think I will "try" to not look at what you put up...my head still hurts!

sunofnun

Well.. I think DevilDoc set me in the right direction... so I'd give him credit for this one.

But here's a gun anyways!

edorfox

Dang! Here I am playing again.

Is it a Harrington Richardson folding shotgun? I actually had a Galef Companion folding shotgun as a youngster...a "few" years ago.

Ed

sunofnun

ha ha yep.. that's it.

edorfox

OK, here's a gun I once owned...

joeeoj

its some kind of weird Thomson center contender. right?

gemihur

?

... Buehler? ...Buehler?