Leaving a pistol in a vehicle in Wa State?

FatFugg · 03-26-2011, 06:01 PM

So here is my question, is it legal to leave either a loaded or unloaded pistol in the unattended passenger compartment of a vehicle in Washington State? I am considering mounting one of these Biometric Gun Safes | GunVault to the body in my vehicle, but I am wondering if it is legal or not.

Kolat · 03-26-2011, 06:08 PM

yes, its perfectly legal.

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nwcid · 03-26-2011, 06:29 PM

Unloaded if you don't have a permit, loaded or unloaded if you do.

Here is the main part of that law, RCW 9.41.050: Carrying firearms.

Here is the pertinent part;

(2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.

So if you are away from the vehicle it MUST be concealed from view from the outside.

FatFugg · 03-26-2011, 06:50 PM

Thanks for the info guys, now I guess I have a second question?

The way the law is currently written, if you are a CPL holder & have a loaded pistol in the vehicle it must be on your person correct? Is it legal to keep a loaded pistol in a locking box with you in the vehicle? With or without a CPL? For the record, yes I have a CPL.

mjn · 03-26-2011, 07:03 PM

Well... if I need to have it "on my person" even if I'm in a vehicle... then I've been doing it wrong for over 30 years..

FatFugg · 03-26-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mjn

Well... if I need to have it "on my person" even if I'm in a vehicle... then I've been doing it wrong for over 30 years..

Ya mark, they reworded it last year if I remember correctly!

Used to be OK to place it in the vehicle with you, but it is my understanding that as of 2010 a CWP holder must have their pistol on their person.

But I could be completely wrong too! That's why I ask questions.

reppinthe509 · 03-26-2011, 07:52 PM

well i think according to

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Originally Posted by nwcid

(2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.

it can be anywhere in your vehicle if you are in there. if you arent then it has to be out of sight.

FatFugg · 03-26-2011, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reppinthe509

it can be anywhere in your vehicle if you are in there. if you arent then it has to be out of sight.

I hope you guys are right because it would be fuggin nice to not have this damn thing digging in my side while driving!

I guess I will have to ask my favorite FFL that is going to school to be a fed next time I am at her shop!

sixgun · 03-26-2011, 08:39 PM

Now if they would just go back and allow loaded long guns, so I can mount a shotgun to the dash or center console

nwcid · 03-27-2011, 03:19 PM

It does not need to be on you. It is stated in the law I linked,

(2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.

If you read it your options are (i) OR (ii) OR (iii). The comas are OR

It would be impossible to follow the law if the comas = and.......

So basically to have a loaded handgun in the car you either have to have it on you OR you have to be in the vehicle OR it has to be concealed from view if you are out of the vehicle.

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KrautBurner · 03-30-2011, 09:57 AM

it dosn't need to be on you,
but if the vehicle is unattended, the vehicle needs to be secure
and the firearm needs to be out of sight

Sofa king · 10-02-2011, 07:29 PM

do you have a permit if not then NO

FatFugg · 10-02-2011, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nwcid

(2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.

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Originally Posted by Sofa king

do you have a permit if not then NO

No shit?

deadshot2 · 10-03-2011, 05:31 AM

Of course none of these rules apply if you are the Chief of Police in Seattle.

BLdtylry · 10-03-2011, 03:08 PM

I believe it would be ok for you to leave on the trunk of your car as the Seattle PD set that precedent.

pnwvolks · 10-03-2011, 08:23 PM

SPD is becoming a joke! Had one do something rather aggressive to my brother and I in front of our house. We live out near Fall City!

03-26-2011, 06:01 PM	#1
FatFugg Sharpshooter Joined: Jan 2009 From: Dri-Shities Posts: 563	Leaving a pistol in a vehicle in Wa State? So here is my question, is it legal to leave either a loaded or unloaded pistol in the unattended passenger compartment of a vehicle in Washington State? I am considering mounting one of these Biometric Gun Safes \| GunVault to the body in my vehicle, but I am wondering if it is legal or not.

03-27-2011, 03:19 PM	#10
nwcid Rifleman Joined: Mar 2010 From: Spokane/Yakima WA Posts: 123	It does not need to be on you. It is stated in the law I linked, (2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle. If you read it your options are (i) OR (ii) OR (iii). The comas are OR It would be impossible to follow the law if the comas = and....... So basically to have a loaded handgun in the car you either have to have it on you OR you have to be in the vehicle OR it has to be concealed from view if you are out of the vehicle. . Last edited by nwcid; 03-27-2011 at 03:22 PM.

10-02-2011, 07:29 PM	#12
Sofa king Gunslinger Joined: Sep 2011 From: Da~Couve, Wa Posts: 27	Leaving a pistol in a vehicle in Wa State? do you have a permit if not then NO

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03-26-2011, 06:08 PM	#2
Kolat Marksman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Spokane Posts: 371	yes, its perfectly legal. T

03-26-2011, 06:29 PM	#3
nwcid Rifleman Joined: Mar 2010 From: Spokane/Yakima WA Posts: 123	Unloaded if you don't have a permit, loaded or unloaded if you do. Here is the main part of that law, RCW 9.41.050: Carrying firearms. Here is the pertinent part; (2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle. So if you are away from the vehicle it MUST be concealed from view from the outside.

03-26-2011, 06:50 PM	#4
FatFugg Sharpshooter Joined: Jan 2009 From: Dri-Shities Posts: 563	Thanks for the info guys, now I guess I have a second question? The way the law is currently written, if you are a CPL holder & have a loaded pistol in the vehicle it must be on your person correct? Is it legal to keep a loaded pistol in a locking box with you in the vehicle? With or without a CPL? For the record, yes I have a CPL.

03-26-2011, 07:03 PM	#5
mjn Rifleman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Tri-Cities, Wa Posts: 178	Well... if I need to have it "on my person" even if I'm in a vehicle... then I've been doing it wrong for over 30 years..

03-26-2011, 08:39 PM	#9
sixgun Gunslinger Joined: Mar 2011 From: Marysville, WA Posts: 20	Now if they would just go back and allow loaded long guns, so I can mount a shotgun to the dash or center console

03-30-2011, 09:57 AM	#11
KrautBurner Gunslinger Joined: Jan 2009 From: Bremerton, Wa Posts: 68	it dosn't need to be on you, but if the vehicle is unattended, the vehicle needs to be secure and the firearm needs to be out of sight

10-03-2011, 05:31 AM	#14
deadshot2 Marksman Joined: May 2011 From: NW Quadrant WA State Posts: 288	Of course none of these rules apply if you are the Chief of Police in Seattle.

10-03-2011, 03:08 PM	#15
BLdtylry Gunslinger Joined: Sep 2011 From: Snohomish, WA Posts: 24	I believe it would be ok for you to leave on the trunk of your car as the Seattle PD set that precedent.

10-03-2011, 08:23 PM	#16
pnwvolks Gunslinger Joined: Dec 2010 From: Fall City Posts: 94	SPD is becoming a joke! Had one do something rather aggressive to my brother and I in front of our house. We live out near Fall City!