Remington Modell 11

reppinthe509 · Jul 15, 2011

apparently kind of common, but has anyone seen these?

its a semi auto shotgun made in 1905.
recoil operated but the weird thing is the barrel moves back as part of the recoil.

Model 11 Autoloading Shotgun

my buddys uncle bought one and i was checking it out last night.

bigggbbruce · Jul 15, 2011

11 or 11a.... made from 1905-1949... 12ga..?

Teacher Todd · Jul 15, 2011

koorbloh · Jul 15, 2011

I think I've shot one of those....

effin weird to shoot...

deadshot2 · Jul 15, 2011

This is a "licensed model" of the Browining Auto-5. Browning sold what was essentially the same shotgun until 1998. Let's just say that they were "noted for their recoil".

Remington eventually streamlined it into the 1100 and made it gas operated to smooth out the recoil.

reppinthe509 · Jul 15, 2011

i just thought it was so weird that the barrel moved. neat little gun though. he bought it for 85 bucks

deadshot2 · Jul 16, 2011

reppinthe509 said:
i just thought it was so weird that the barrel moved. neat little gun though. he bought it for 85 bucks

Here is an interesting read on this shotgun.

Remington Model 11

These models function differently than most people envision, in that upon firing, the recoil forces the barrel & breechblock rearward, but it is still locked to the breechblock's locking lug until it reaches it's farthest rearward movement, then the breechblock is locked back, the locking block unlocks & the barrel travels forward under the recoil springs power.

By keeping the breechblock locked until the barrel reaches the rear most movement, chamber pressure is reduced greatly before it's opened. It was primitive compared to the modern gas systems utilized in the "1100" which opens the breechblock after the shot charge has passed the gas port in the barrel.

Rix · Jul 16, 2011

Had one. Kicks like a fricken mule.
It was a little picky on what shells were used in it, it didn't like to extract/eject some stuff.
Mine was actually pretty nice, but with the ammo pickiness, I let it go.
If I'da had more money at the time, I would have kept it.

deadshot2 · Jul 16, 2011

Rix said:
It was a little picky on what shells were used in it, it didn't like to extract/eject some stuff.

It had to be adjusted to the ammo that it was fed:

The recoil spring around the magazine tube pushed against either one of 2, or a combination of the 2 steel friction or bronze friction rings that were driven rearward by the barrel lug at the front & inside of the forearm. Here by placing these friction pieces in different positions, the firearm could be modified so that ammo varying from light to heavy loads could be shot with reliability but not interchangeably.

Lots of people were unaware of this because by the time they got hold of one the "instructions" were long gone. Lots of people, rather than adjust, would reload their ammo so it would eject properly, or just buy whatever load worked right.

Rix · Jul 16, 2011

Understood.
But irrelevant, for my collection.

boomer1 · Jul 17, 2011

I have a "humpback" Savage 720 that is the same design. The John Moses Browning design was licensed to many manufacturers, including Remington and Savage. That is a great link in deadshot's posting.

Be safe,
boomer

Remington Modell 11

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