Open carried for the first time today

Inglewood · 07-30-2011, 09:45 AM

Well I went out and did a couple hours of [motorcycle] riding this morning and threw on the drop leg holster to see how I'd do. I spent most of the time in semi-busy saturday morning city streets, and I don't think anybody gave me stink eye the whole time. Success!

Minor issue, though: my holster is a little too loose around my thigh, and likes to tuck itself in my leg behind my knee when I start from having my foot on the ground. It's obnoxious to have to let go of the throttle and shift the damn thing every time I hit a red light - but I can't cinch up the strap any further. It's not alarmingly loose, and isn't an issue when standing or walking, but it swings about and whacks my kneecap if I run in it.

Has anyone resized their elastic successfully?

cheers,

bigggbbruce · 07-30-2011, 11:33 AM

You can test your homemaking skills... does it have a buckle or end that can be shortened and sewn and secured....I've moved fasteners that way before...

philster · 07-30-2011, 12:08 PM

I just don't have the guts. Maybe rural, but not "downtown". More my lack of faith in people, and their knowledge of the law than real fear.

James · 07-30-2011, 12:20 PM

Why let 'the bad guys know you carry?
I don't want a 'nut job' to know I'm protected.
Suprise is a great tool.

koorbloh · 07-30-2011, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James

Why let 'the bad guys know you carry?
I don't want a 'nut job' to know I'm protected.
Suprise is a great tool.

so is education of the public that not everyone with a gun is a bad guy.

TheRedSkull · 07-30-2011, 12:30 PM

are we gonna have one of those "all OCer's are attention whores" argument again?
lets not, as its a horrible generalization.
just like thinking that concealed carry should be our only option, because people are ignorant of the laws in their area.
i think people should be ticketed for false reports if they call up police when a man is legally carrying and doing no wrong.

PiNk TCP · 07-30-2011, 12:32 PM

I took your lead and decided to put on my drop leg holster, grab a Beretta and jump on the Ninja

I didn't like the proximity of the plastic leg strap buckles to the gas tank, so I took it off and tossed a .380 in the tank bag and rode on

koorbloh · 07-30-2011, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRedSkull

are we gonna have one of those "all OCer's are attention whores" argument again?
lets not, as its a horrible generalization.
just like thinking that concealed carry should be our only option, because people are ignorant of the laws in their area.
i think people should be ticketed for false reports if they call up police when a man is legally carrying and doing no wrong.

would you rather discuss the price of "custom" pistols?

TheRedSkull · 07-30-2011, 12:47 PM

no, i was just calling the argument, in fact i would very much enjoy the OC arguments, i am pro-OC, i enjoy seeing peoples reasons to hate on it, usually its the whole "attention whore" thing.

koorbloh · 07-30-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRedSkull

no, i was just calling the argument, in fact i would very much enjoy the OC arguments, i am pro-OC, i enjoy seeing peoples reasons to hate on it, usually its the whole "attention whore" thing.

you should look up shrodinger's cat

TheRedSkull · 07-30-2011, 01:30 PM

but i like cats...

James · 07-30-2011, 01:34 PM

It's NOT an argument. It was a question.
Ya want to 'educate' the public?
Then do some 'Public Service Announcements'.
Riding around with a pistol on your leg or a rifle across your back will only let EVERYONE including 'bad guys' know your armed.
I don't want anyone to know what I can bring to a fight.

James · 07-30-2011, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRedSkull

but i like cats...

Mmmmm MooShOO Kitty! Tastey!

TheRedSkull · 07-30-2011, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James

It's NOT an argument. It was a question.
Ya want to 'educate' the public?
Then do some 'Public Service Announcements'.
Riding around with a pistol on your leg or a rifle across your back will only let EVERYONE including 'bad guys' know your armed.
I don't want anyone to know what I can bring to a fight.

thats not a reason to not OC, its a preference of yours.

deadshot2 · 07-30-2011, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James

It's NOT an argument. It was a question.
Ya want to 'educate' the public?
Then do some 'Public Service Announcements'.
Riding around with a pistol on your leg or a rifle across your back will only let EVERYONE including 'bad guys' know your armed.
I don't want anyone to know what I can bring to a fight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRedSkull

thats not a reason to not OC, its a preference of yours.

Considering that some won't notice and most of those that do don't care, nothing really is accomplished other than the fact you didn't have to wear a jacket that day.

OC is MOSTLY noticed by the person carrying.

philster · 07-30-2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by deadshot2

Considering that some won't notice and most of those that do don't care, nothing really is accomplished other than the fact you didn't have to wear a jacket that day.

OC is MOSTLY noticed by the person carrying.

Depends on where you live... Where I live they would notice and freak the F out...

mjn · 07-30-2011, 03:56 PM

I agree with Jimmy. I like having the element of suprise on my side.

I believe we should have the right to OC, I just wouldn't exercise it much.

Inglewood · 07-30-2011, 04:06 PM

I always carry when I ride, but before today it's always been in a backpack. Packing it away in there is easy, but it'd probably take me a good thirty seconds to swing it off my shoulders, dig it out, unholster and find my target should I need it in a hurry.

Perhaps real zen is achieved by having the drop leg and the secret second packed away...

mjn · 07-30-2011, 04:33 PM

I'd think a pancake holster would be the best... what are you carrying?

Inglewood · 07-30-2011, 04:34 PM

Usp .40

dsolie · 07-30-2011, 06:10 PM

I carry on the bike all the time. Usually OC in a Serpa and my light mesh jacket doesn't even come close to concealing it....

James · 07-30-2011, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inglewood

I always carry when I ride, but before today it's always been in a backpack. Packing it away in there is easy, but it'd probably take me a good thirty seconds to swing it off my shoulders, dig it out, unholster and find my target should I need it in a hurry.

Perhaps real zen is achieved by having the drop leg and the secret second packed away...

Two words...Tank Bag!
Ez to get to. Be sure and practise with your riding gloves on. Reloads without practise can be troublesome.

James · 07-30-2011, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjn

I agree with Jimmy. I like having the element of suprise on my side.

I believe we should have the right to OC, I just wouldn't exercise it much.

Totally agree with OC.
I like being a 'Sneeky Lil Bastd'!
One on my person, one in my tank bag.

PiNk TCP · 07-30-2011, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James

Two words...Tank Bag!
Ez to get to. Be sure and practise with your riding gloves on. Reloads without practise can be troublesome.

Bingo, mine is a Fieldsheer Access Tank Bag

JayD1981 · 07-30-2011, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mjn

I agree with Jimmy. I like having the element of suprise on my side.

I believe we should have the right to OC, I just wouldn't exercise it much.

FYI, the element of surprise is NEVER on the citizen's side. A criminal will always have the element of surprise because they will initiate the contact. In fact there has been atleast one incident where OC actually prevented a crime. CC does not prevent anything.

With that said I support both forms and like it when citizens carry regardless of their form of carry. I do wish we did not have to ask the state for permission to CC though.

Inglewood · 07-31-2011, 08:04 AM

What do you guys do with your tank bag when you stop some place where you'll be away from the bike for a little bit? Lunch stop, corner store, etc? Do you transfer your weapon or leave it on board?

PiNk TCP · 07-31-2011, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inglewood

What do you guys do with your tank bag when you stop some place where you'll be away from the bike for a little bit? Lunch stop, corner store, etc? Do you transfer your weapon or leave it on board?

My tank bag unzips from the magnetic base, at this point it becomes my "Man Purse" with all things important in it. Wearing the rest of the MC garb should get you off the hook for being some kind of metrosexual

svytlana · 07-31-2011, 10:16 AM

same here. magnetic tank bag goes with me

jimbo · 07-31-2011, 12:28 PM

I went for a ride the other day and had my ar in a backpack with the barrel pokeing out the top even went in the quick-e mart to pay for gas and never even got a second glance

James · 08-01-2011, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inglewood

What do you guys do with your tank bag when you stop some place where you'll be away from the bike for a little bit? Lunch stop, corner store, etc? Do you transfer your weapon or leave it on board?

Mine is magnetic. I take it with me. Another is a strap style. I unbuckle it and take it inside. NEVER leave a tank bag unattended. I had one stolen while I was 'inside' paying for gas. (no gun inside)

mjn · 08-01-2011, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayD1981

FYI, the element of surprise is NEVER on the citizen's side. A criminal will always have the element of surprise because they will initiate the contact. In fact there has been atleast one incident where OC actually prevented a crime. CC does not prevent anything.

With that said I support both forms and like it when citizens carry regardless of their form of carry. I do wish we did not have to ask the state for permission to CC though.

Of course the criminal controls the initial suprise, but very few have the balls to continue on when faced with firepower.

I understand why sometimes OC could possibly thwart a perp from engaging... however.. what's to stop that individual from walking up behind you and disarming you? Are you completely aware of your surroundings ALL the time? I know I'm not. I don't have eyes in the back of my head.
As I said previously.. I want the element of suprise on my side. I'd rather no one know I'm armed, but hey... that's me.

JayD1981 · 08-01-2011, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjn

Of course the criminal controls the initial suprise, but very few have the balls to continue on when faced with firepower.

I understand why sometimes OC could possibly thwart a perp from engaging... however.. what's to stop that individual from walking up behind you and disarming you? Are you completely aware of your surroundings ALL the time? I know I'm not. I don't have eyes in the back of my head.
As I said previously.. I want the element of suprise on my side. I'd rather no one know I'm armed, but hey... that's me.

Everyone wants to go to that scenario. I will concede it could be possible to for someone to walk up and attempt to disarm me, and thats partially why I carry in a retention holster (serpa CQC). I will also concede that it could be possible that a criminal comes into an establishment intent on doing harm and takes out the open carrier first. However, I would challenge you to find actually reports of citizens open carrying and being disarmed in that fashion or being targeted by a criminal. Those scenarios are much like the anti-gun arguments that passing shall issue laws will cause the streets to run red with blood. It doesn't happen. From my experiences and reading the news, the only ones targeting open carriers are polititians and the police.

You are right, that very few criminals have the balls to continue when faced with firepower. And when seeing someone open carry, they realize that firepower and look for an easier target.

Like I said, thinking that you have the element of surprise by concealed carrying if a fallacy. However, I am glad you carry none the less.

sunofnun · 08-02-2011, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo

I went for a ride the other day and had my ar in a backpack with the barrel pokeing out the top even went in the quick-e mart to pay for gas and never even got a second glance

ha ha that's awesome.

jimbo · 08-02-2011, 08:03 PM

small towns do have their advantages

1911er · 08-03-2011, 09:21 AM

As I have been OCing for almost three years I find it more comfortable to just have a owb holster.
As I hardly ever wear jacket and prefer not to carry a (man bag).

as I am handicapped as use A walking stick that would mean both hands are full already.And that is just one more step necessary to arm myself if needed. Beside if we let them take away our right to carry how we choose what right will be next, where we live, what we eat ,who we vote for??

Constitutional supporter.

Inglewood · 08-06-2011, 09:54 AM

I went ahead and continued to open carry all week long from Renton to Arlington and back each day, and had one hotty in a minivan pull up next to me ecstatically waving, clapping, pointing, and all in all losing her shit about it. That was about it.

I'm really thinking more seriously about a kydex paddle type holster for my belt loop instead though, the drop leg holster is too much weight for a standard trouser belt, causing it to sag at my waist in addition to the thigh band being too loose.

$85 kinda hurts, but was thinking this fella > Inside Waistband Holsters - Minotaur Holsters - products new home - Minotaur MTAC Holster

PiNk TCP · 08-06-2011, 10:49 AM

If your thinking about an IWB holster, I cannot say enough good things about Kholster's..I have two.

Kholster

Teacher Todd · 08-06-2011, 01:56 PM

Those Kholster holsters are nice. I am heading out to dinner tonight with the family and will be carrying in a crossbreed supertuck which is extremely comfortable as well.

James · 08-06-2011, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inglewood

I went ahead and continued to open carry all week long from Renton to Arlington and back each day, and had one hotty in a minivan pull up next to me ecstatically waving, clapping, pointing, and all in all losing her shit about it. That was about it.[/url]

Are you sure she was'nt pointing and laughing?

dsolie · 08-06-2011, 05:47 PM

When I CC, I carry a XD-45 full size in a Crossbreed Supertuck holster
Crossbreed Holsters > Home

And yes, they do tuck and tuck well.

07-30-2011, 09:45 AM	#1
Inglewood Gunslinger Joined: Mar 2011 From: Renton, WA Posts: 64	Open carried for the first time today Well I went out and did a couple hours of [motorcycle] riding this morning and threw on the drop leg holster to see how I'd do. I spent most of the time in semi-busy saturday morning city streets, and I don't think anybody gave me stink eye the whole time. Success! Minor issue, though: my holster is a little too loose around my thigh, and likes to tuck itself in my leg behind my knee when I start from having my foot on the ground. It's obnoxious to have to let go of the throttle and shift the damn thing every time I hit a red light - but I can't cinch up the strap any further. It's not alarmingly loose, and isn't an issue when standing or walking, but it swings about and whacks my kneecap if I run in it. Has anyone resized their elastic successfully? cheers,

08-03-2011, 09:21 AM	#35
1911er Gunslinger Joined: Jul 2011 From: Port Orchard WA. Posts: 30	OC everywhere As I have been OCing for almost three years I find it more comfortable to just have a owb holster. As I hardly ever wear jacket and prefer not to carry a (man bag). as I am handicapped as use A walking stick that would mean both hands are full already.And that is just one more step necessary to arm myself if needed. Beside if we let them take away our right to carry how we choose what right will be next, where we live, what we eat ,who we vote for?? Constitutional supporter.

08-06-2011, 01:56 PM	#38
Teacher Todd Rifleman Joined: Jan 2011 From: Prineville, OR Posts: 173	Those Kholster holsters are nice. I am heading out to dinner tonight with the family and will be carrying in a crossbreed supertuck which is extremely comfortable as well. Last edited by Teacher Todd; 08-06-2011 at 02:51 PM.

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07-30-2011, 11:33 AM	#2
bigggbbruce Rifleman Joined: Apr 2011 From: Oregon Posts: 135	You can test your homemaking skills... does it have a buckle or end that can be shortened and sewn and secured....I've moved fasteners that way before...

07-30-2011, 12:08 PM	#3
philster Marksman Joined: May 2011 From: Woodinville WA Posts: 255	I just don't have the guts. Maybe rural, but not "downtown". More my lack of faith in people, and their knowledge of the law than real fear.

07-30-2011, 12:20 PM	#4
James Sharpshooter Joined: Jan 2010 From: Pacific NW Posts: 541	Why let 'the bad guys know you carry? I don't want a 'nut job' to know I'm protected. Suprise is a great tool.

07-30-2011, 12:30 PM	#6
TheRedSkull Rifleman Joined: Apr 2011 From: Corvallis, OR Posts: 204	are we gonna have one of those "all OCer's are attention whores" argument again? lets not, as its a horrible generalization. just like thinking that concealed carry should be our only option, because people are ignorant of the laws in their area. i think people should be ticketed for false reports if they call up police when a man is legally carrying and doing no wrong.

07-30-2011, 12:32 PM	#7
PiNk TCP Rifleman Joined: Feb 2011 From: Seattle, Wa Posts: 173	I took your lead and decided to put on my drop leg holster, grab a Beretta and jump on the Ninja I didn't like the proximity of the plastic leg strap buckles to the gas tank, so I took it off and tossed a .380 in the tank bag and rode on

07-30-2011, 12:47 PM	#9
TheRedSkull Rifleman Joined: Apr 2011 From: Corvallis, OR Posts: 204	no, i was just calling the argument, in fact i would very much enjoy the OC arguments, i am pro-OC, i enjoy seeing peoples reasons to hate on it, usually its the whole "attention whore" thing.

07-30-2011, 01:30 PM	#11
TheRedSkull Rifleman Joined: Apr 2011 From: Corvallis, OR Posts: 204	but i like cats...

07-30-2011, 01:34 PM	#12
James Sharpshooter Joined: Jan 2010 From: Pacific NW Posts: 541	It's NOT an argument. It was a question. Ya want to 'educate' the public? Then do some 'Public Service Announcements'. Riding around with a pistol on your leg or a rifle across your back will only let EVERYONE including 'bad guys' know your armed. I don't want anyone to know what I can bring to a fight.

07-30-2011, 03:56 PM	#17
mjn Rifleman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Tri-Cities, Wa Posts: 178	I agree with Jimmy. I like having the element of suprise on my side. I believe we should have the right to OC, I just wouldn't exercise it much.

07-30-2011, 04:06 PM	#18
Inglewood Gunslinger Joined: Mar 2011 From: Renton, WA Posts: 64	I always carry when I ride, but before today it's always been in a backpack. Packing it away in there is easy, but it'd probably take me a good thirty seconds to swing it off my shoulders, dig it out, unholster and find my target should I need it in a hurry. Perhaps real zen is achieved by having the drop leg and the secret second packed away...

07-30-2011, 04:33 PM	#19
mjn Rifleman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Tri-Cities, Wa Posts: 178	I'd think a pancake holster would be the best... what are you carrying?

07-30-2011, 04:34 PM	#20
Inglewood Gunslinger Joined: Mar 2011 From: Renton, WA Posts: 64	Usp .40

07-30-2011, 06:10 PM	#21
dsolie Gunslinger Joined: Jul 2009 From: Olympia, WA Posts: 42	I carry on the bike all the time. Usually OC in a Serpa and my light mesh jacket doesn't even come close to concealing it....

07-31-2011, 08:04 AM	#26
Inglewood Gunslinger Joined: Mar 2011 From: Renton, WA Posts: 64	What do you guys do with your tank bag when you stop some place where you'll be away from the bike for a little bit? Lunch stop, corner store, etc? Do you transfer your weapon or leave it on board?

07-31-2011, 10:16 AM	#28
svytlana Gunslinger Joined: Apr 2009 From: spokane Posts: 45	same here. magnetic tank bag goes with me

07-31-2011, 12:28 PM	#29
jimbo Peashooter Joined: Jul 2011 From: wenatchee Posts: 7	I went for a ride the other day and had my ar in a backpack with the barrel pokeing out the top even went in the quick-e mart to pay for gas and never even got a second glance

08-02-2011, 08:03 PM	#34
jimbo Peashooter Joined: Jul 2011 From: wenatchee Posts: 7	small towns do have their advantages

08-06-2011, 09:54 AM	#36
Inglewood Gunslinger Joined: Mar 2011 From: Renton, WA Posts: 64	I went ahead and continued to open carry all week long from Renton to Arlington and back each day, and had one hotty in a minivan pull up next to me ecstatically waving, clapping, pointing, and all in all losing her shit about it. That was about it. I'm really thinking more seriously about a kydex paddle type holster for my belt loop instead though, the drop leg holster is too much weight for a standard trouser belt, causing it to sag at my waist in addition to the thigh band being too loose. $85 kinda hurts, but was thinking this fella > Inside Waistband Holsters - Minotaur Holsters - products new home - Minotaur MTAC Holster

08-06-2011, 10:49 AM	#37
PiNk TCP Rifleman Joined: Feb 2011 From: Seattle, Wa Posts: 173	If your thinking about an IWB holster, I cannot say enough good things about Kholster's..I have two. Kholster

08-06-2011, 05:47 PM	#40
dsolie Gunslinger Joined: Jul 2009 From: Olympia, WA Posts: 42	When I CC, I carry a XD-45 full size in a Crossbreed Supertuck holster Crossbreed Holsters > Home And yes, they do tuck and tuck well.