Big 4 Ice Caves

DerBarbarian · 08-30-2011, 08:35 PM

hey guy's I asked this on PNR but I figured this is more of a Question for the guns section, I'm hiking up there with a friend tomorrow, was curious if that is an area you're able to carry a firearm or if it's off limits to firearms, not that I would be shooting strictly self defense, I have a feeling it's fine but I just wanted to make sure, better safe than sorry.

Damon · 08-30-2011, 08:59 PM

I have always carried up there. I don't remember anywhere saying you can't... The last time I was there was last year when that little girl got killed by a huge chunk of falling ice.

deadshot2 · 08-31-2011, 07:44 AM

Forest Service Rules apply. Can't carry in the Verlot Ranger Station but everywhere else, your golden.

koorbloh · 08-31-2011, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by deadshot2

Forest Service Rules apply. Can't carry in the Verlot Ranger Station but everywhere else, your golden.

DerBarbarian · 08-31-2011, 11:22 AM

Ok let me clarify just to make sure i'm understanding this right. I can carry on the trail, I just cannot enter the Ranger Station itself with a firearm?

koorbloh · 08-31-2011, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DerBarbarian

Ok let me clarify just to make sure i'm understanding this right. I can carry on the trail, I just cannot enter the Ranger Station itself with a firearm?

joo gotsit

deadshot2 · 09-01-2011, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DerBarbarian

Ok let me clarify just to make sure i'm understanding this right. I can carry on the trail, I just cannot enter the Ranger Station itself with a firearm?

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Originally Posted by koorbloh

joo gotsit

And no, those wonderful "federal stuctures" called "Pit Toilets" or Restrooms don't qualify as "forbidden". Just make sure you don't drop your firearm down the hole.

Sharecropper · 09-01-2011, 08:20 PM

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And no, those wonderful "federal stuctures" called "Pit Toilets" or Restrooms don't qualify as "forbidden."

Of course, if there were no federal government, then we wouldn't be having this conversation. The ice caves would be in private hands. They either wouldn't exist, or it would cost you $20 bucks per person to visit them. And if the private owners decided that they didn't want firearms on their lands, you'd go look at the ice caves bare handed.

The lesson? The federal government is evil.

deadshot2 · 09-02-2011, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharecropper

Of course, if there were no federal government, then we wouldn't be having this conversation. The ice caves would be in private hands. They either wouldn't exist, or it would cost you $20 bucks per person to visit them. And if the private owners decided that they didn't want firearms on their lands, you'd go look at the ice caves bare handed.

The lesson? The federal government is evil.

Your almost right. As it is, we all pay taxes to support the surrounding area of these "Naturally Formed" caves but then are charged again to enjoy it.

Taxpayers should get free passes send out with their tax forms. Let the "Visitors" or non tax payers pay for their permits to use these facilities.

No Government isn't "Evil", just "Greedy" and "Stupid".

08-30-2011, 08:35 PM	#1
DerBarbarian Rifleman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Seattle Posts: 211	Big 4 Ice Caves hey guy's I asked this on PNR but I figured this is more of a Question for the guns section, I'm hiking up there with a friend tomorrow, was curious if that is an area you're able to carry a firearm or if it's off limits to firearms, not that I would be shooting strictly self defense, I have a feeling it's fine but I just wanted to make sure, better safe than sorry.

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08-30-2011, 08:59 PM	#2
Damon Rifleman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Seattle Posts: 153	I have always carried up there. I don't remember anywhere saying you can't... The last time I was there was last year when that little girl got killed by a huge chunk of falling ice.

08-31-2011, 07:44 AM	#3
deadshot2 Marksman Joined: May 2011 From: NW Quadrant WA State Posts: 288	Forest Service Rules apply. Can't carry in the Verlot Ranger Station but everywhere else, your golden.

08-31-2011, 11:22 AM	#5
DerBarbarian Rifleman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Seattle Posts: 211	Ok let me clarify just to make sure i'm understanding this right. I can carry on the trail, I just cannot enter the Ranger Station itself with a firearm?