Full-Auto Guns & WA State Law

richardlpalmer · Sep 6, 2012

Hey guys, can we round up the laws regarding full-auto weapons in WA? I have so much verbal interpretation floating around my head I have no idea what's what. There seem to be so many confident people stating what's "right", regarding years, type of weapons, barrel length, blah blah blah.

But the only full-auto I've seen was a brand new MP5. The guy shooting it was another "knowledgeable guy" who basically said as long as you have enough money, you can shoot anything. BTW, this was at an indoor range...

So what's the scoop?

koorbloh · Sep 6, 2012

if you want reliable info go here: Revised Code of Washington (RCW)

all you'll get here is more verbal interpretation.

sunofnun · Sep 6, 2012

wikipedia is quicker than searching the RCW's but they do reference them..

I Suppose if you were to start a company which works on automatic weapons you could be allowed to have them in your possession?

Lets just go in on a cabin in Idaho? Probably cheaper...

Gun laws in Washington - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

NFA weapons restricted? Yes Yes
RCW 09.41.190 RCW 09.41.220 RCW 09.41.225 RCW 09.41.250(1)(c)

Machine guns and short-barreled rifles or shotguns are illegal for non-law-enforcement possession. Silencers are lawful to possess and use if registered properly with ATF.

References:

RCW 9.41.190: Unlawful firearms

RCW 9.41.190
Unlawful firearms — Exceptions.

(1) It is unlawful for any person to manufacture, own, buy, sell, loan, furnish, transport, or have in possession or under control, any machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle; or any part designed and intended solely and exclusively for use in a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle, or in converting a weapon into a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle; or to assemble or repair any machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle.

(2) This section shall not apply to:

(a) Any peace officer in the discharge of official duty or traveling to or from official duty, or to any officer or member of the armed forces of the United States or the state of Washington in the discharge of official duty or traveling to or from official duty; or

(b) A person, including an employee of such person if the employee has undergone fingerprinting and a background check, who or which is exempt from or licensed under federal law, and engaged in the production, manufacture, repair, or testing of machine guns, short-barreled shotguns, or short-barreled rifles:

(i) To be used or purchased by the armed forces of the United States;

(ii) To be used or purchased by federal, state, county, or municipal law enforcement agencies; or

(iii) For exportation in compliance with all applicable federal laws and regulations.

(3) It shall be an affirmative defense to a prosecution brought under this section that the machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle was acquired prior to July 1, 1994, and is possessed in compliance with federal law.

(4) Any person violating this section is guilty of a class C felony.

[1994 sp.s. c 7 § 420; 1982 1st ex.s. c 47 § 2; 1933 c 64 § 1; RRS § 2518-1.]

richardlpalmer · Sep 6, 2012

koorbloh said:
if you want reliable info go here: Revised Code of Washington (RCW)

all you'll get here is more verbal interpretation.

I was actually suggesting just that (not the discussion).

richardlpalmer · Sep 6, 2012

sunofnun said:
wikipedia is quicker than searching the RCW's but they do reference them..

I Suppose if you were to start a company which works on automatic weapons you could be allowed to have them in your possession?

Lets just go in on a cabin in Idaho? Probably cheaper...

I see the section in bold, but the sub-sections i, ii & iii still give me pause. Doesn't seem like personal usage is included...

qballrail · Sep 7, 2012

richardlpalmer said:
I see the section in bold, but the sub-sections i, ii & iii still give me pause. Doesn't seem like personal usage is included...

Why do only the government & uniforms get to play with the fun guns? Aren't the average joe gun enthusiast "good" enough? LOL

koorbloh · Sep 7, 2012

qballrail said:
Why do only the government & uniforms get to play with the fun guns? Aren't the average joe gun enthusiast "good" enough? LOL

do you really want half the retards in this state who have watched a Doomsday Preppers and Sons of Guns and now think they are ******* gun experts to have access to full-auto?

no.

no, you don't.

sunofnun · Sep 7, 2012

koorbloh said:
do you really want half the retards in this state who have watched a Doomsday Preppers and Sons of Guns and now think they are ******* gun experts to have access to full-auto?

no.

no, you don't.

well.... seems to work for idaho, montana, nevada, etc etc....

{dumb washington guy}
Gee, We'r probablee stupity'er,er up der in warshintun... am uh rite pawwwww..
{/dumb washington guy}

koorbloh · Sep 7, 2012

sunofnun said:
well.... seems to work for idaho, montana, nevada, etc etc....

{dumb washington guy}
Gee, We'r probablee stupity'er,er up der in warshintun... am uh rite pawwwww..
{/dumb washington guy}

there's a lot more space in those states for idiots to be idiots.

Brianaintright · Sep 7, 2012

With the going rate of an old m16 at $16-24k for a transferable example, they'd have to be some rich retards. Full auto ain't cheap.

richardlpalmer · Sep 10, 2012

Brianaintright said:
With the going rate of an old m16 at $16-24k for a transferable example, they'd have to be some rich retards. Full auto ain't cheap.

Dayum!

But there have to be more affordable options out there. Uzis? AKs?

And what about stuff like Glock 18s and the like?

I've heard of modifications that can be done to make Ruger 10-22s full auto. That'd be fun as hell if it's true.

Brianaintright · Sep 10, 2012

I think the cheapest transferable mg will be in the $5k-7k range for a Mac based or maybe a stempler tube gun. Everything transferable was made before April or may of 1986.

Now you can become a class 3 dealer, obtain sample letters from police / military agencies, pay a yearly fee to the state and federal governments and keep huge amounts of paperwork on file. That way you could buy cheaper post 1986 "dealer samples". You'd have to go this route in WA as individual ownership is verboten.....unless you owned it before 1994.....

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