Gun range workers claim they were poisoned by lead

Jan 2009
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Seattle
I just saw this article on King 5 I thought it was interesting. If they were actually given the proper equipment and they chose not to use it, it's their bloody fault. From the video it looks like they had suits, gloves and respirators, the lead dust that would be getting kicked up is what I would be worried about and if you're using a respirator it shouldn't be a problem. It'll be interesting to follow this and see where it goes from here.

Eight former employees of a Bellevue gun range have filed a lawsuit in King County Superior Court claiming they were fired for blowing the whistle about lead contamination in the workplace.

In September, the workers at Wade's Eastside Guns and Bellevue Indoor Range were tasked with excavating large amounts of dirt used as a backstop in the firing range. The dirt was filled with years of spent bullets, which contaminated the material with lead.

The range safety employees were required to do the work for a large remodel project.

"We are just range guys," said former supervisor Andres Martinez. "We are not trained to excavate tons of dirt and sift through lead."

Weeks after the project began, workers began complaining of body aches and insomnia, they claim were symptoms of lead exposure.

According to medical records, several workers were found to have elevated blood lead levels.

"We had no training or warning about the risks," said Matt Olson, also a former employee.

Owner Wade Gaughran says the workers were given proper training and proper safety equipment but chose not to use it correctly. He also says seven workers were laid off because work was sparse after the range closed for construction. He says it had nothing to do with reporting lead contamination.

"It's an issue we've run into before on projects like these," said Gaughran. "You tell them how to do these project, you teach them, then you turn around and their mask is around their neck."

The Washington Department of Labor of Industries has an open investigation into health and safety concerns at the range. The King County Department of Health is also investigating whether any members of the public have been exposed to high levels of lead at the range, which is now reopened.
 
Jan 2009
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Kirkland, WA
Lead can be nasty stuff. But in any event, if I were doing remediation work I'd either want a trained crew (outside my people) or for my people to be educated enough -- not just about how to wear/use gear, but of the safety risks involved.

I mean, trying to convince someone to wear protective gear to remove "popcorn" from ceilings back in the day was probably tough -- until you explain what asbestos really does to a body...
 
Jan 2013
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Corvallis OR
"We are not trained to excavate tons of dirt and sift through lead."
Yea, it's real complicated.
 
Dec 2012
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Vancouver, WA
Environmental remediation, excavation and demolition is both complex and hazardous. While there is an element of common sense to it, there's also a complexity in compliance with Saftey, handling and disposal that have both legal and moral ramifications that are not as simple as you might think, there is a lot to know. Do it yourself lead abatement is asking for trouble, continuing to do it when you know your employees are not being compliant is stupid, keeping after it when they are becoming symptomatic, I think that is immoral. It seems to me, the employer has established patterns in his answers that make him both negligent and a repeat offender.
 
Jan 2009
1,318
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Kirkland, WA
Environmental remediation, excavation and demolition is both complex and hazardous. While there is an element of common sense to it, there's also a complexity in compliance with Saftey, handling and disposal that have both legal and moral ramifications that are not as simple as you might think, there is a lot to know. Do it yourself lead abatement is asking for trouble, continuing to do it when you know your employees are not being compliant is stupid, keeping after it when they are becoming symptomatic, I think that is immoral. It seems to me, the employer has established patterns in his answers that make him both negligent and a repeat offender.
That's kind of where I was going with it.

Asbestos. Who here would feel confident doing remediation of it?

Uranium. Same question?

I know an old guy that when he was young use to work at a uranium sluice. The water-blasted mud would come down the sluice and kids like him would lean over and sort of "shovel" it off with their arms/chest, slinging it to the ground.

But these days there's no way you could go near that site without proper protection and plenty of training.
 
Feb 2013
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West Richland
I believe the employer has the burden of fault/responsibility.

Since you brought up Asbestos:
As a teenager (1990-ish), my dad had us mixing asbestos powder, that cam in 50 pound bags, into a large drum with water. We were to mix it into a slurry so his employees could handle it in a manner that he considered "safer" (it was a green goo/slime). He used it in his plaster that was for the plaster finish (final layer) of the swimming pools he made. It wasn't until I joined the Military and had some decent training that I even knew the extent of the hazard that I was working with.

The employees can often be ignorant to how bad the chemicals are that they are working with. Yes, it is their responsibility to don the gear, but the employer should have immediately reprimanded or fired anyone that didn't.
 

KC

Feb 2013
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Seattle
I went though a extensive lead class for Remodeling homes built prior to 1978.
Know what I learned? As long as your iron and calcium levels are normal lead will not attach itself to your blood cells. Your body will naturally just expel the lead like if you take took a vitamin supplement and you body did not need it. Its my understanding people that work in lead factories take high doses of iron and calcium to prevent poisoning.

Kids and pregnant women are at higher risk because they naturally have lower levels iron and calcium in their blood.

If you shoot a lot indoors or are exposed to it I would suggest
1) Taking iron and calcium supplements
2) Washing your hand afterwords especially before putting hands near face like eating.
3) Do not directly expose your kids or pregnant wife to your shooting clothes or body before taking a shower.

A little common sense goes a long ways
 
Jan 2013
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Oregon
It's the employer's responsibility to ensure his employees are working safely. If he tells them how to do something in a safe manner, and they ignore it, they should be fired. It simply opens up too much liability to just let them do whatever they want. OSHA has a ton of guidelines about working with hazardous stuff, and it isn't easy or cheap to comply.
 
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