I recently saved up for a new hand gun and when the dealer called OSP for the background check they told them that it would be at the latest 30 days before they get a response. I filled the 4473 out right with my SS#. I have never had any record including traffic tickets. I have had state and Federal checks for my work. This my first Non-Face to Face firearms purchase and I am legal permanent resident of the US since I was a baby. So its been 2 weeks and still no reply. Has anyone encountered this situation? I am patiently waiting, but I hear that if it takes so long most of the time they don't respond at all? I have sent in an application for a UPIN#, but that takes months and I think it doesn't change anything because in Oregon the state does the checks. I am worried that they will make an erroneous denial or delay longer or not even respond. The dealer told me that they do not release a firearm with out a proceed(which is legal in Oregon) from the OSP. It is such a disappointment! I pay my taxes, I obey the laws, I am signed up for the draft, and I work in heath care with the public which has strict background checks and laws. Any insight, advice, experience with this would be much appreciated.
Something with your name and or Identification might be very similar with someone else. I have never heard of this happening, so I am just guessing. I have done numerous purchases with many different dealers and have always been approved instantly over the phone. Best of luck to you. I hope it all works out.
Just keep checking back! And if that doesn't pan out, you could always try a different store. Some shop owners get wierded out for the strangest reason then blame it on OSP.
I've purchased in Oregon (when I was a resident)
no wait.
but I was also Military and figure'd I was on file anyways.
if you really wanna know what they are looking at,
you can get a copy of your criminal record: FBI — Criminal Background Check
no wait.
but I was also Military and figure'd I was on file anyways.
if you really wanna know what they are looking at,
you can get a copy of your criminal record: FBI — Criminal Background Check
i had this happen to me when i got my lower in, i had to wait 30days, i read on another site that its in part due to the fact oregon adds an extra step in background check (calling the OSP who will call the FBI, rather than just call the FBI). i also read about OSP denying the check and just delaying another 30days. but i may be misunderstanding something here, i waited my 30 days and i got my lower, it didnt make me feel very good when it happened though.
i feel your pain.
does any other state do this? i mean adding additional steps of red tape to make it harder for one to enjoy their rights?
got a rifle and pistol within last 30 days, each was approved over the phone and took less than 5 min to complete.
yes thats how it normally goes, but for some of us it seems we hit snags thanks to reasons outside our control.
I am to tired to look tonight, but will look and see what my paperwork shows, that can cause a delay like that. I believe that after a specified time frame if the dealer has not heard back from osp they can proceed. Also I believe you can call osp to find out. I will let you know more in the morning.
yes but OSP may delay it indef for whatever reasons and while the FFL can hand it over after like a week if OSP doesnt get back to them with a reason, but really not many shops will do that it seems, my shop said they didnt even know about any of that, and werent all that concerned, they sided with the OSP "just wait it out"...
i seriously dont know why here in oregon we have the OSP calling the feds for the dealer, its an additional layer of phone tag...
god i hated when they made me wait, all they would tell me as that i must "wait and give them time to do their job", beyond that the OSP will be of no use...
why is the OSP even involved in checking their books? isnt that the point of calling the Feds?
They are involved so that they can make money.
Here is a number you can call.
Challenge Line (for denied or pended call inquiries) 503-373-1808 x327
OSP has rewritten their guide for gun dealers in Oregon and removed errors such as a statement that a transfer could not be made without an approval. In fact, in the absence of denial, transfers can take place after three business days have elapsed even if there is a "delay" or "pend."
Hope this helps.
Here is a number you can call.
Challenge Line (for denied or pended call inquiries) 503-373-1808 x327
OSP has rewritten their guide for gun dealers in Oregon and removed errors such as a statement that a transfer could not be made without an approval. In fact, in the absence of denial, transfers can take place after three business days have elapsed even if there is a "delay" or "pend."
Hope this helps.
Do you have the specific document to quote for that rewritten guide? It might be helpful to take to a dealer for my new handgun! Then again, they might not budge regardless. I do feel that this long a delay is not appropriate given a complete lack of deniable reasons. For goodness sakes this is absolutely criminal. I should send them a bill for long term rental of the firearm!
Check this link. It has a copy of the letter sent to FFL Dealers. Also call the number and leave a message. They will get back to you.
http://oregonfirearms.org/pdfs/OSPINFO/11.26.08OSPLetter.pdf
http://oregonfirearms.org/pdfs/OSPINFO/11.26.08OSPLetter.pdf
Your anger is totally valid! However I would not sweat it in terms of your eligibility to purchase if I were you. I am willing to bet they are just trying to teach the State Legislature what things will be like if their budget gets cut more. Sucks to be caught up in it, but it's a bigd*ck contest at this point everywhere in terms of budget vs. service. Hell, you'd have less of a wait in New Jersey or New York at this point.
Good luck. I hope it shakes free this week!
Good luck. I hope it shakes free this week!
OSP really shouldnt be the middleman for this...
the law must change, especially if its about the budget, if its removed from their list of duties then it wont be a budget issue...
the law must change, especially if its about the budget, if its removed from their list of duties then it wont be a budget issue...
that only has their numbers, it says nothing about "in the absence of denial, transfers can take place after three business days have elapsed even if there is a "delay" or "pend.""
as i said before i heard this as well, but when i brought this up to my shop they snickered and pretty much wouldnt believe me (looking for info on this rule actually led me to this forum), he then said that even if true he doubts many if any dealers would be willing to do that, it would of course be easier to just hold onto it and await word from OSP... so i find the "option" you mention as not an option, but a merely words in hope it comforts the few of us unlucky enough to get picked out by OSP...
on the plus side the human at the end of that hotline will call you back within 24hrs, but she will only tell you that you must give them their allotted time to work, beyond that she will just re-read the same laminated printout to you... oh and when i asked what the problem was she could only tell me that it was something to do with my name (no duh) and that i really needed to give them their allotted time...
i cannot express how much the run around on it angers me, and since it doesnt happen to most, they dont see a problem with it like i do.
yeah im mad!:angry:
I can not speak for his dealer only for myself. Unless I felt you were a risk because of they way you portray yourself, I would follow the rules as laid out and if I had not heard in 3 days, come get it, but thats me.
You have every right to be angry and frustrated, I know I would be. One of the reasons I got my FFL license was so that I don't have to play that game anymore.
If you really want to get tweaked, my ATF guy said he would not be surprised to see oregon raise the back ground rate to 15.00 or 20.00 in the next year or two since it is a money maker for them.
You have every right to be angry and frustrated, I know I would be. One of the reasons I got my FFL license was so that I don't have to play that game anymore.
If you really want to get tweaked, my ATF guy said he would not be surprised to see oregon raise the back ground rate to 15.00 or 20.00 in the next year or two since it is a money maker for them.
I thought I just read somewhere yesterday that they are going to raise it to 23 or 26 bucks next month. Could be wrong, but I could swear that is what I read.
yet they still cant get it right and are still an unnecessary level of phone tag, beyond them earning money with it (and likely using that money elsewhere and not on improving the system) why do we do it? what are FFL not trusted to call the feds on their own but CAN be trusted to check with the OSP, and they obviously know more than the feds? i mean if the federal government says im fit to own a gun why would oregon state police say otherwise? are they trying to deny more people firearms? do they want more control?
can anyone point out the oregon law that says the FFL may hand over the firearm without approval? because the pdf teacher todd posted says nothing in regards to that, but i know i have seen it.
does anyone know of an actual store dealer that will do the 3 days thing if the OSP doesnt give the go ahead? because i seriously doubt they would be willing to do that, one customer isnt worth the shop...
