My .45 Debate

Jan 2009
370
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Washington
So...

... I'm potentially in the market for a .45 (although I still want a P22 and a LCP .380).

Here's my predicament:

I love the XD series. Beautiful gun and amazing to shoot.

On the other hand, I'm looking for something compact that will be easier to conceal than my .40. If I get a compact .45 (in grip only, will still have standard barrel), I'm torn between getting the Glock 30 SF and the XD compact.

So for those who have them, care to share your opinion?

Side notes:
- I compared the Glock 30 and 36, and the 30 fits my hand better by leaps and bounds.
- If I get a compact .45, it'll eliminate my desire for a .380, so it would be one less gun to get.
 
Jan 2009
371
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Spokane
glock 29.

45acp vs 10mm is no contest, kinda like comparing an old cb500 honda to a GSXR-1000.

Sure the cb500 is kinda cool in a retro sort of way, but nothing like the badassness that is a GSXR-1000.

T
 
Jan 2009
370
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Washington
So I found this comment about the .45 vs 10mm out on the internet:

Because the 10mm auto has alot worse kick than a .45 acp, and is similar in balisticaly to the .41 remington magnum. that means that woman and girly men dont like it cuz they cant handle it., AND that particular area was already covered by the .357mag +P, and the .41 mag.

Basiclay, because that area of cartridges was already covered, and it has fairly high recoil, it didnt sell verry well,

To my knowledge, the 10mm is the only auto cartridge ( besides the extinct 44 automag and the over-priced 50 Action Express) that is viable for defence agains large game like bear.

Thoughts?
 
Jan 2009
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Renton, WA
Kahr PM45 FTMFW

10mm is for guys with small peepee's that need to compensate with their "big gun". :thefinger:

I wouldn't dismiss the .380 idea so quick though. There is no "compact" .45 on the planet that can compare in size/weight concealability as the LCP. I bet my LCP weighs less than a fully loaded clip from a G29/30 lol. I can stick my LCP in a jacket pocket and hardly tell it's there. No way the same could be said for a G30 or similar. Granted a .380 is a much weaker round than a .45 but the little gun you have on you is better than the big gun you left home.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is.... buy both!

Oh FWIW, if I was in the market for a compact .45 it would be the G30SF or maybe pony up for the Kahr or HK45C. I love the XD series as well, but the G30 is smaller & lighter than the XD .45 Compact with the same capacity.
 
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Jan 2009
371
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Spokane
but pete....the LCP can't do you any good when it's at the factory for recall :p

T
 
Feb 2009
126
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Lacey, Wa
+1 on the Kahr. I handled one for a good bit while waiting for my paperwork to go through this afternoon. It felt tight and well built... slim and sleek as well. I just can't justify spending $700 for one.
 
Jan 2009
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Washington
I watched a guy buy the compact HK today. I about died at the price. No friggin' way.

I really loved the feel of the G30 in my hand...
 

Oly

Jan 2009
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Thurston County, Washington
I recentley added a Taurus M. Pro .45 to my little collection. Shot the other day up in Puyallup and was quite pleased with it. Have an Don Hume IWB holster coming and have been using an Uncle Mikes IWB in the mean time.

I'd still like to put a few hundred more rounds through it but for a new firearm I had no problems hittin target, so it will go with me now instead of the P89.
 
Jan 2009
223
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Spokane
45 in anything but a 1911 is sacrilage. I had both a Colt Officer and a Springfield ultra-compact. Both had "issues", most likely due to barrel length. Smallest I would go in a 45 (based on the 2 that I owned that didn't work and the 4 that I had/have that did/do) is a commander sized weapon. If you want smaller than that, go with a G23 or G27. If you're mil or leo/fire you can get one of the Glocks for $410 + the governors fee (with 3 hi-cap mags instead of the normal allotment of 2).
 
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Jan 2009
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Renton, WA
but pete....the LCP can't do you any good when it's at the factory for recall :p

T

Already been in for the recall and back again. I've got the free finger ext mag and hat to prove it. Put prolly 500 or so rounds through it since I got it back without a hiccup. Now with the Crimson Trace laser sight it's even sweeter. :grin:
 
Jan 2009
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Renton, WA
Coug what brands of 1911's did you own? I'm looking at getting a 1911 .45 compact... probably another Rock Island Armory.

Petey check this mouse gun out Magnum Research Micro Desert Eagle .380 ACP Pocket Pistol

I think its better looking than the Kel-... ooops i meant the Ruger :)

Yeah I've heard about that one, first test I've read though. Not quite sure what to think of it though? The LCP is already pretty small and a bit of handful to shoot. Not sure if smaller would be better here or not? It's also heavier than the LCP, but that might be a good thing with the smaller size. Also I didn't see the price anywhere? The LCP is a bargain at $270 IMO.

A quick google and it looks like they around around $500 give or take, nearly twice the price of an LCP. Is it twice as good as an LCP? Methinks not.
 
Jan 2009
196
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Marysville, WA
If you want a .45 you can carry, look for a Kimber Ultra Carry. 3" bbl, single stack, and very concealable. Not horrible to shoot either.

Otherwise, I'd skip the .45 as a deep-concealment gun, and get a full size. Much more fun to shoot, and easier to shoot accurately. Stick with 9mm & .380 for the t-shirt & shorts carry.
 
Jan 2009
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Spokane
A gunsite built on a Springfield NM frame/slide. My fav with slm grips & tritiium sites
Springfield TRP stainless - love the front strap checkering, but the magwell adds about a 1/4" to the bottom length. Tritium night sites
S&W 1911PD - that's the commander size one. scandium frame. very light weight easily carried.

The Springfields are 5 inchers.
 
Jan 2009
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wa
kimber ultra compact II if you want to look at and feel one let me know. you can fondle mone for a second...... only!!!


If you want a .45 you can carry, look for a Kimber Ultra Carry. 3" bbl, single stack, and very concealable. Not horrible to shoot either.

Otherwise, I'd skip the .45 as a deep-concealment gun, and get a full size. Much more fun to shoot, and easier to shoot accurately. Stick with 9mm & .380 for the t-shirt & shorts carry.
 
Feb 2009
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Oregon
If you want a .45 you can carry, look for a Kimber Ultra Carry. 3" bbl, single stack, and very concealable. Not horrible to shoot either.

Otherwise, I'd skip the .45 as a deep-concealment gun, and get a full size. Much more fun to shoot, and easier to shoot accurately. Stick with 9mm & .380 for the t-shirt & shorts carry.


I was going to say that exact same thing...I didn't know how much I would carry/enjoy a lightweight .45, so I picked up a glock 26 (9mm). It's cheap to shoot often (important to be accurate/comfortable with your carry piece) and my wife can shoot it if need be. Someone once razzed me about going with a "wussy" 9mm, I asked him with a straight face if I could shoot him once or twice in the chest with my wussy 9mm. He replied "Hell no, that would probably kill me"...point made!
The springfield XD's are terrific weapons and can be concealed relatively easily. Yes, revolvers are the most reliable, but with the knowledge that you'll most likely miss your target in an emergency situation, I want as many rounds as I can carry to up my chances. If only they made a concealable AR-15 I'd be set!:top:
 
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