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Old 04-08-2014, 02:51 PM   #1
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Smallest practical 9mm

I'm looking for a small-as-possible 9mm pistol. What's out there that's smaller and flatter than a Glock 26/27?
 
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Old 04-08-2014, 03:08 PM   #2
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Old 04-08-2014, 05:36 PM   #3
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Old 04-08-2014, 06:16 PM   #4
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I have never regretted purchasing my LC9.

 
Old 04-08-2014, 09:09 PM   #5
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I like that S&W and the Beretta Nano is another option
 
Old 04-09-2014, 07:55 AM   #6
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I bought an LC9, didn't care for the long DA trigger, and for me, my thumb tended to ride the mag release, and so it would drop the mag when shot to slide lock. I sold it to a buddy and bought a Shield and LOVE it. It is SO much more shootable than the LC9 it's not even funny. My buddy who bought my LC9 shot my Shield and traded his LC9 in on one.

That said, the LC9 is a smidge smaller and lighter, and for pocket carry and such that may give it the nod for some people. I still have my LCP and love it, but it's big brother never really did it for me. YMMV.
 
Old 04-09-2014, 10:30 AM   #7
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The LC9 replaced my TCP for warm weather under the T-Shirt concealment, when it's colder and more clothes are required it's a Beretta Storm sub compact, both where chosen because of the DAO or DA first shot..but that's just me.
 
Old 04-09-2014, 01:58 PM   #8
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I bought an LC9, didn't care for the long DA trigger, and for me, my thumb tended to ride the mag release, and so it would drop the mag when shot to slide lock. I sold it to a buddy and bought a Shield and LOVE it. It is SO much more shootable than the LC9 it's not even funny. My buddy who bought my LC9 shot my Shield and traded his LC9 in on one.

That said, the LC9 is a smidge smaller and lighter, and for pocket carry and such that may give it the nod for some people. I still have my LCP and love it, but it's big brother never really did it for me. YMMV.


I shot the LC9 and couldn't really hit very well with it.
(silhouettes at 25ft no prob, but hitting smaller targets at that distance is an exercise in ammo frivolity)

I shot pete's stupid shield.. and now I want one. You can actually hit with it.
Not just body shots at close range. I have a XDSC, and can hit really well with it.. I didn't think I would want anything smaller, but now I do.
 
Old 04-10-2014, 08:09 AM   #9
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XDS 9mm is about the size of the above pics, no?
 
Old 04-10-2014, 12:39 PM   #10
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The XDSC feels a lot bigger than the ones above..

it's a double stacker and can hold 16rnds (if you have the standard SC mag in), I can hit really well with it.. but side by side, the LC9, and M&P are way slimmer, and overall much easier to conceal?
 
Old 04-10-2014, 02:25 PM   #11
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XDS 9mm is about the size of the above pics, no?
Yes it is very similar to the Shield. Forgot to mention that one. I'm a big fan of the XD/XDm line, I have an XDSC and two XDms, but I went with the S&W this time, just felt better in my hand. But the XDs is also nice, and available in .45 ACP.
 
Old 04-11-2014, 09:20 AM   #12
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I have a Shield. I like the form factor very much. It's in a whole different league than the Glock 26 (which is just too fat). Not sure I'd want anything smaller in 9mm than the Shield - I'd go LCP for pocket carry.
 
Old 04-11-2014, 03:30 PM   #13
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Yes it is very similar to the Shield. Forgot to mention that one. I'm a big fan of the XD/XDm line, I have an XDSC and two XDms, but I went with the S&W this time, just felt better in my hand. But the XDs is also nice, and available in .45 ACP.
Word. My go-to carry is an XDs 45. I haven't held the 9 because I'm happy with the 45 but I think I read somewhere that externally they are identical?

I need to shoot a Shield. I hear nothing but good things.
 
Old 04-11-2014, 06:32 PM   #14
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Easy answer; Sig P938. Absolutely LOVE mine. Spot on accurate, smooth action, nice trigger.. Very compact.



First time out. 25+ feet.

 
Old 04-12-2014, 08:11 AM   #15
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that little sig is sexy
 
Old 04-12-2014, 10:02 AM   #16
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I now carry the M&P Shield 9 but at one time I carried the Kel-tec PF-9, probably the most narrow and lightest 9mm around. An inexpensive pistol that was not fun to shoot, went boom every time and easy to carry.
 
Old 04-22-2014, 07:55 PM   #17
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The Sig P938 is a beauty. I think you'd have a hard time going wrong with that.

I shoot a Shield and love it -- super comfortable in the hand and I can hit with it just as well as other pistols.

The XDS in .45 is another option. It's almost identical to the size of the Shield (check YouTube for videos comparing the two). Did they ever come out with a 9mm version?

Have you considered a Glock 36? Great guns! Carried one for a while and would again. It's Glock's only single stack (that I know of) and it's a sub-compact .45. What's not to love?
 
Old 04-23-2014, 12:09 AM   #18
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i rather like my HK P7 PSP, but its not as small as it could be and while its a beautiful pistol, i think the M&P shield is the best overall choice as far as small 9mm pistol's go...
 
Old 04-25-2014, 03:32 PM   #19
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Kahr CM9, slim, lightweight, easy to carry and conceal, very smooth trigger, and very accurate.
 
Old 04-26-2014, 03:02 AM   #20
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http://www.rohrbaughfirearms.com/

Rohrbaugh R9s
 
Old 04-26-2014, 12:34 PM   #21
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I'm looking for a small-as-possible 9mm pistol. What's out there that's smaller and flatter than a Glock 26/27?
Is this thing on?
 
Old 04-26-2014, 08:32 PM   #22
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Rohrbaugh R9s
I'm not sure this counts as practical. With an msrp north of $1k, a 7 round capacity, being difficult to grip, and (this cracks me up) the manufacturer recommends you don't shoot it. You have to replace the recoil spring every 100-200 rounds. It is surprisingly picky about ammo. The owner of the company only shoots one magazine worth of ammo every few months. And this is not meant to shit on your suggestion. I looked up the gun because I has never heard about it and just found this information quite interesting.
 
Old 04-26-2014, 09:04 PM   #23
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I'm not sure this counts as practical. With an msrp north of $1k, a 7 round capacity, being difficult to grip, and (this cracks me up) the manufacturer recommends you don't shoot it. You have to replace the recoil spring every 100-200 rounds. It is surprisingly picky about ammo. The owner of the company only shoots one magazine worth of ammo every few months. And this is not meant to shit on your suggestion. I looked up the gun because I has never heard about it and just found this information quite interesting.
Well I have used one for 8 yrs and have put about 1500 rds through it and have never replaced a spring. It always functions and eats all non plus p ammo with zero problems.
Its precision made and a 9 mm smaller than a p32.
When I cant carry the Kimber I carry it and amvery impressed with it. I built up the grips slightly and have large hands.
If you believe every liability protection comment without hands on testing, that is your issue. The man asked what the smallest 9 was and I told him.
They charge 1200 for a reason.
Its worth the money.
Take it or leave it! This is no plastic toy.
Personally I shoot Black Talons non plus p and have zero issues. I practice with what ever is cheap and a few BT's again no issues. I cannot ever remember a fail to fire. I carry nothing I dont have 100% confidence in.

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Old 08-09-2014, 07:33 AM   #24
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All the advertisements in the gun magazines emphasizing its small size sold me on the Springfield XDs 9mm. Small, but not so small that it would be punishing to shoot or sacrifice accuracy. Springfield puts together a nice package as well.

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Old 08-10-2014, 06:23 PM   #25
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LC9 is great for carry, but sucks to just go out and shoot, so not ideal, as you should practice with your carry gun. DB9 is all but identical, super concealable, not bad shooting (as long as you grip it imagining that it is a Serbu Super Shorty loaded with full power 2-3/4" slugs lol)
The Sheild somehow steps up a tiny notch, still small enough to stuff in a pocket and leave there all day (as long as that pocket is otherwise empty, your keys don't play well with a gun and scrape up the gun) yet still has just enough of a grip that as long as you grip properly, it can shoot like a dream!
With the tiny LC9 and DB9, you gotta pretend your hands are a vise just to get perfect function with any load...
 
Old 08-10-2014, 08:01 PM   #26
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LC9 is great for carry, but sucks to just go out and shoot, so not ideal
Oh really? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeLxP6Kywzk

And if you don't like the LC9's trigger, Ruger has a new LC9 Striker-fired trigger option with the LC9s

Ruger® LC9s™ Centerfire Pistol Models

"Striker-fired version of the award-winning LC9® has a short, light, crisp trigger pull for faster, more accurate shooting."

 
Old 08-10-2014, 08:38 PM   #27
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Main thing I dislike (now this is just my opinion, so don't take it as gospel) about the LC9 and DB9 equally, is just how bad the gun seems to rock in my hands, they both work fine if I hang on really, really tight, but neither would be my first choice to go run 100+ rounds thru at the range. Your mileage may vary.
 
Old 08-10-2014, 08:52 PM   #28
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Main thing I dislike (now this is just my opinion, so don't take it as gospel) about the LC9 and DB9 equally, is just how bad the gun seems to rock in my hands, they both work fine if I hang on really, really tight, but neither would be my first choice to go run 100+ rounds thru at the range. Your mileage may vary.
Rocking in your hands from the short grip?
 
Old 08-10-2014, 11:20 PM   #29
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smallest 9 i know of


the 9mm Derringer
 
Old 08-11-2014, 08:00 AM   #30
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Main thing I dislike (now this is just my opinion, so don't take it as gospel) about the LC9 and DB9 equally, is just how bad the gun seems to rock in my hands, they both work fine if I hang on really, really tight, but neither would be my first choice to go run 100+ rounds thru at the range. Your mileage may vary.
That was my issue with the LC9 too. Well, that and the trigger, but Ruger has now fixed that one. I could it shoot once ok. Then have to totally regrip it for any decent follow up shots. I have small hands, and even with the pinky extension thingy, still could not get a solid shooting grip on it.

So I sold it and got an M&P Shield, which I can shoot comfortably and actually hit shit with it!
 
Old 08-22-2014, 10:55 PM   #31
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That was my issue with the LC9 too. Well, that and the trigger, but Ruger has now fixed that one. I could it shoot once ok. Then have to totally regrip it for any decent follow up shots. I have small hands, and even with the pinky extension thingy, still could not get a solid shooting grip on it.

So I sold it and got an M&P Shield, which I can shoot comfortably and actually hit shit with it!
...and put a ton of rounds through, happily.
 
Old 08-25-2014, 09:55 AM   #32
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...and put a ton of rounds through, happily.
That too!
 
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