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| Marksman Joined: May 2011 From: Woodinville WA Posts: 255 | Do you buy brass or factory loads?
Just curious. 100 9mm remington unfired cases = 21 to 24 bucks 100 PMC rounds = 24 to 28 bucks I understand PMC is made in Korea but I've got some that are on reload #6 with no primer leaks, bulging, or anything! Why would you buy brass? |
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| Sharpshooter Joined: Jan 2009 From: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 661 |
I buy loads and make my own empty brass out of it :)
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| Marksman Joined: May 2011 From: NW Quadrant WA State Posts: 288 |
Of the thousands and thousands of pieces of brass I have I have only purchased a fraction of it in one form or another. Most of my brass comes from "volunteering to sweep up brass" around other shooters. Have also cleaned up after some police groups have qualified. In 9mm, if you can buy inexpensive loaded ammo go for it. Most 9mm brass is just fine to reload although some military loads have crimped primer pockets and need swaging before reloading. I have several thousand PMC cases in 9mm. They load and shoot just like the rest. If you want to save some bucks, go to the Kenmore Range and buy 9mm range brass for $4/lb. This works out to about $3.50 per hundred pieces of brass. Sure it's range brass but a lot of it is new. For some reason there are a lot of shooters that turn up their noses at reloading 9mm. A lot of the shooters on the pistol range during the weekend are non-members and also non-reloaders. They bring boxes of new ammo with them that's just swept up. If you only kept 1/5th of it you'd still be ahead. The price for the PMC ammo you mentioned works out to about "two-bits" per round. I reload 9mm for right at $0.10/round using my cases. Add 3-4 cents per round for a piece once fired brass and it's still cheap. Buying new brass, unless you are assembling something special like SD ammo, can really run the cost up. Last edited by deadshot2; 08-21-2011 at 08:21 AM. |
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| Marksman Joined: May 2011 From: Woodinville WA Posts: 255 | Quote:
Funny you should mention people not wanting to load 9mm. Lots of folks will tell you 9mm and 223 are the worst to load. I haven't loaded 223 (only 30-30, 308, and 30-06) I have loaded enough 9mm to have found it's no big deal. Is it harder to set the taper crimp than on a 45? you have to be a little more precise because everything is smaller, but it's no big deal! I have only used brass I've shot so far. I have about 500 cases at any one time, and rarely shoot more than 75 out of the 9mm at any one session. Mainly because my M&P isn't a target gun. I spend more time with my 22s for precision shooting. But that is about to change as I get into competition. Last edited by philster; 08-21-2011 at 03:49 PM. | |
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| Sharpshooter Joined: Jan 2009 From: Renton, WA Posts: 519 |
When Mig got his reloading press, I bought I think 4000 pieces of 9mm brass, thinking we'd need it to 'get started'. It's still sitting in Mig's garage in reserve, we've got plenty of brass just from shooting factory stuff with new guns, ranges where adjacent shooters offer up their brass as well, shooting with friends that buy factory and don't care about brass, etc etc. So the answer would be, yes bought some once, but didn't really need to. |
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| Rifleman Joined: Apr 2011 From: Oregon Posts: 135 |
I've bought very few factory loads... I have also collected enough OPB(other peoples brass) to reload for years to come... to reload my 44 mag alone I save nearly $30 a box of 50... my choice..NO BRAINER... |
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| Marksman Joined: May 2011 From: NW Quadrant WA State Posts: 288 | Quote:
I have found it the least problematic of all the brass I load. 9mm brass loads so many times I get tired of looking at it before I see any case splitting. .223 brass, if it's military, just needs to have the primer pocket swaged. For less than a box of once fired brass one can buy the tool from Dillon (the others are a pain) and have buckets of brass that others turn up their nose at. As for "Glocked Brass" it's mostly .45 and .40 S&W that gets the bulge. 9mm is a "tapered" case and is stronger near the head than these others. Lee and others make a "Bulge Buster" die. The cases are pushed through the die from below, similar to a sizing die for cast bullets, and it irons out the bulge. If I reloaded for those calibers I'd be more than happy to pick up all the Glock Brass that others leave behind. Free is a great price and even if only some is salvageable, it's actually better than free. You can sell the unusable cases for scrap and put some $$ in the "kitty". | |
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| Rifleman Joined: Feb 2009 From: redmond,wa Posts: 246 |
u bought 3000 ;) and i bought some too. we had to buy 380 as well i believe... but i dont remember.... and we bought at least 2000 223's maybe closer to 4000.... never bought 45, and we prolly have about 5000 of those :P and i gotta have a couple thou in .40 but i dont reload that... yet
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| Gunslinger Joined: Mar 2011 From: Dallas,OR Posts: 25 |
I do both,plus police up brass after hunters and shooters........Usually horse trade the brass I don't reload or use at all........
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| Gunslinger Joined: Sep 2011 From: Snohomish, WA Posts: 24 |
I'll buy Once-Fired brass if I can find it for cheap. Otherwise I'll pick up the brass from indoor ranges, outdoor ranges, or anywhere I can find them. Just recently my boys and I picked up some brass from out in the woods near the house and Wet Tumbled it in Stainless Steel Media. Before: ![]() After: |
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| Gunslinger Joined: May 2011 From: Camano Island Wa. Posts: 11 |
Bought a bag of 38 special brass this past week end at a gun show,for $11.00. 308 rounds. After going through the tumbler, I only discarded 2 rounds. Good buy.
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| Marksman Joined: May 2011 From: NW Quadrant WA State Posts: 288 | Quote:
The best thing to happen to reloading since someone discovered the rock tumbler. | |