Forbes article about DHS 1.6 billion rounds

pnwvolks · Mar 11, 2013

I found this to be an interesting article and begs the question what in the world is DHS planning for?!

1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For Homeland Security? It's Time For A National Conversation - Forbes

sunofnun · Mar 11, 2013

Oh yeah.. nothing fishy about that at all.... only 16million times more ammo than they need..

Brianaintright · Mar 11, 2013

They're not buying 1.6 billion rounds, they're putting the option on it. This isn't about prepping for "civil war" this is about controlling the ammosupply in the US. These options will keep ammo prices inflated and supply low for the rest of us.

The MRAP's are ex-mil through the DLA (DRMO) which is actually good for tax payers. They don't have 2700 - they have 32. Do swat teams need that spec? No but it beats the federal government scrapping half million dollar machines and spending another $350k a pop on Lencoe Bearcats.

So to summarize, it's shitty, but not tinfoil hat shitty.....yet.

sunofnun · Mar 11, 2013

goddamnit.. I have some perfectly good tinfoil hats.

cobra525 · Mar 11, 2013

Brianaintright said:
They're not buying 1.6 billion rounds, they're putting the option on it. This isn't about prepping for "civil war" this is about controlling the ammosupply in the US. These options will keep ammo prices inflated and supply low for the rest of us.

The MRAP's are ex-mil through the DLA (DRMO) which is actually good for tax payers. They don't have 2700 - they have 32. Do swat teams need that spec? No but it beats the federal government scrapping half million dollar machines and spending another $350k a pop on Lencoe Bearcats.

So to summarize, it's shitty, but not tinfoil hat shitty.....yet.

Ok, I know I am stupid, and a little drunk, but that made zero sense to me :/

richardlpalmer · Mar 11, 2013

Brianaintright said:
They're not buying 1.6 billion rounds, they're putting the option on it. This isn't about prepping for "civil war" this is about controlling the ammosupply in the US. These options will keep ammo prices inflated and supply low for the rest of us.

The MRAP's are ex-mil through the DLA (DRMO) which is actually good for tax payers. They don't have 2700 - they have 32. Do swat teams need that spec? No but it beats the federal government scrapping half million dollar machines and spending another $350k a pop on Lencoe Bearcats.

So to summarize, it's shitty, but not tinfoil hat shitty.....yet.

cobra525 said:
Ok, I know I am stupid, and a little drunk, but that made zero sense to me :/

I happen to speak "Rob" (and am also a little drunk). Let me see if I can help.

Paragraph 1: They didn't buy anything. They're just freezing all of the ammo with an order in case they want to buy it in the future. Screws you and me.

Paragraph 2: The vehicles they're buying (armored military, mine-"proof") was actually misrepresented. They didn't buy 2700 of them, that was actually an order placed by the USMC and totally disrelated. They bought 32 of them -- and only because they got a sweet deal on the ones being brought back from the sandbox, slated to be **** canned. Looks bad, but isn't.

Paragraph 3: Not good. But not bad.

RCJIM · Mar 11, 2013

were all going to die.................. in a hail of hollow points

richardlpalmer · Mar 11, 2013

RCJIM said:
were all going to die.................. in a hail of hollow points

I can think of worse ways...

Trusty Wrench · Mar 12, 2013

So, just out of curiosity,

do the ammo suppliers have some kind of contract with the US Government that requires them to fill Government orders first?

I think it's time the manufacturers stepped up to the plate and backed the people first.

DoktorT · Mar 12, 2013

"I think it's time the manufacturers stepped up to the plate and backed the people first."

I would sure like to see all of the military-industrial complex guarantee not less than 2/3rds of production go to the civilian market. Govt should never have an advantage here for any reason political or otherwise.

cobra525 · Mar 12, 2013

richardlpalmer said:
I happen to speak "Rob" (and am also a little drunk). Let me see if I can help.

Paragraph 1: They didn't buy anything. They're just freezing all of the ammo with an order in case they want to buy it in the future. Screws you and me.

Paragraph 2: The vehicles they're buying (armored military, mine-"proof") was actually misrepresented. They didn't buy 2700 of them, that was actually an order placed by the USMC and totally disrelated. They bought 32 of them -- and only because they got a sweet deal on the ones being brought back from the sandbox, slated to be **** canned. Looks bad, but isn't.

Paragraph 3: Not good. But not bad.

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Forbes article about DHS 1.6 billion rounds

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