Building a New AR

sunofnun · 05-08-2009, 09:08 PM

Hey fellas,

I'm building a AR from a stripped RRA lower I just pickedup

So Im thinking a light weight 16 inch setup.

Probably gonna pull the 6 postion butstock off my stag arms 20inch and put the magpul precision on there..

SO couple questions.

Does anyone have a LPK laying around. I'm thinking of just picking up a RR kit with the two stage trigger. I have a jard kit with about 3lbs of pull in my 20" I'm thinking I want around 4 for this one?

AND if youve seen any slick 16 inch setups recently I'd love to see them.. I'm thinking flat top, w/a short picitinny forgrip. maybe a gasblock w/out a fixxed site..

Maybe gonna put a eotech on it?

Let the suggestions begin!

Metonymy · 05-08-2009, 11:10 PM

For a tactical rifle, don't use a 2 stage trigger. You want that tight, crisp feel of a heavier trigger. Save the 2 stage and light pull for the precision setup.

As for an LPK, they're readily available now. It'll cost you about $85, but they're fairly easy to get a hold of now.

JohnnyB · 05-09-2009, 02:54 AM

I've had 2 LPK's on backorder from Rguns for almost 2 months. I ordered a second for my brother in law but he has found one locally and bought it. So I'm stuck with 2. If you haven't bought yours by the time mine gets in I'll sell it for exactly what I paid and ship it to ya! It was $60.00 plus shipping.

Let me know if you're interested.

sunofnun · 05-09-2009, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metonymy

For a tactical rifle, don't use a 2 stage trigger. You want that tight, crisp feel of a heavier trigger. Save the 2 stage and light pull for the precision setup.

As for an LPK, they're readily available now. It'll cost you about $85, but they're fairly easy to get a hold of now.

good call.. AND cheaper! lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

I've had 2 LPK's on backorder from Rguns for almost 2 months. I ordered a second for my brother in law but he has found one locally and bought it. So I'm stuck with 2. If you haven't bought yours by the time mine gets in I'll sell it for exactly what I paid and ship it to ya! It was $60.00 plus shipping.

Let me know if you're interested.

yeah, let me know. who made the ones you have on order?

Mic · 05-11-2009, 04:26 AM

last WAC show I went to, even at 1pm when Jason and I left, MULTIPLE tables still had MULTIPLE LPK's laying around.

I'm going to give my 2 cents on LPK's right now, you can take it for what its worth, or just say I'm nuts.

I personally like DPMS LPK's better than RRA. In fact, I like DPMS better than any other I've tried. The parts are much more precise. The Detents are also the best I've worked with. I replaced the detents in all my guns with the DPMS ones, with there springs, as they were much more smooth. RRA's are a bit pointed and can "stick" if you don't clean them and the pins up very well (same with the safety selector).

Pieces that I have replaced with DPMS parts from my RRA and other kits are the following.

Detents and Springs
Mag Release
Safety Selector

FatFugg · 05-21-2009, 08:05 PM

Not sure if you found what ya wanted, but here are some retail packaged DPMS LPK's for $70.00!

PK Firearms | Online Store

I wish I would have remembered this thread yesterday. They had Sabre Defense 16" stainless fluted barrel flat top uppers with a DD lite rail & BCG for $830.00. You said you wanted a slick 16" setup, that would have been it. I was considering one myself, but I really shouldn't spend the money right now.

sunofnun · 05-21-2009, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatFugg

Not sure if you found what ya wanted, but here are some retail packaged DPMS LPK's for $70.00!

PK Firearms | Online Store

I wish I would have remembered this thread yesterday. They had Sabre Defense 16" stainless fluted barrel flat top uppers with a DD lite rail & BCG for $830.00. You said you wanted a slick 16" setup, that would have been it. I was considering one myself, but I really shouldn't spend the money right now.

yessssssss! just ordered it! thanks for the heads up!

FatFugg · 05-26-2009, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunofnun

yessssssss! just ordered it! thanks for the heads up!

You still need an upper for it?

Check these out!

Sabre Defence 16 inch SS Fluted Mid w/Daniel Defense 10.0 Lite $830.00

Sabre Defence 16 inch SS Fluted Mid w/Troy TRX Extreme Eleven Inch Forend complete upper $760.00

PK Firearms | Online Store

sunofnun · 05-28-2009, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatFugg

You still need an upper for it?

Check these out!

Sabre Defence 16 inch SS Fluted Mid w/Daniel Defense 10.0 Lite $830.00

Sabre Defence 16 inch SS Fluted Mid w/Troy TRX Extreme Eleven Inch Forend complete upper $760.00

PK Firearms | Online Store

I think I missed them.. definately interested in them! damn..

sunofnun · 05-28-2009, 03:27 PM

My new lower is completely assembled, and the hunt for the perfect upper has begun..

I'm thinking about a spikes tactical, vltor vis setup, maybe a POF upper...

I want a fluted barrel, and strongly integrated upper w/ picitinny forgrip

Metonymy · 05-28-2009, 03:45 PM

I have a Spikes upper. Love it. No fluted barrel.

I tossed on a LaRue Tactical 10" rail... it's good to go. :)

FatFugg · 06-01-2009, 03:54 PM

These aren't as high end as I think your looking for, but their in stock! Check um out!

PK Firearms | Online Store

sunofnun · 06-03-2009, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatFugg

These aren't as high end as I think your looking for, but their in stock! Check um out!

PK Firearms | Online Store

Nice call! I just had one of my buddies order the 5.56 upper. I got three guys from work to all build their 1st AR. good times.

I'm gonna hold out for something a little more exotic.

What are your thoughts on D.D. vs Larue vs spikes..

I assume spikes is the lesser of the three..

FatFugg · 06-03-2009, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunofnun

What are your thoughts on D.D. vs Larue vs spikes..

I assume spikes is the lesser of the three..

They are all three good, but yes the Spikes would be one tier lower then DD & Larue. I have a DD rail on my AR pistol & it seems to be durable & high quality.

If I was building a dream AR I would either go with a VLTOR monolithic or a Viking Tactics upper!

sunofnun · 06-03-2009, 02:50 PM

ha ha that's funny! I was looking at the Vltor VIS this morning and thinking of a noveske barrel!!!!

FatFugg · 06-09-2009, 02:24 PM

If your lookin to put BUIS on your build BravoCompany has the new MagPul MBUS front & rears in stock. They are an inexpensive alternative to metal BUIS. I will probably get a set down the line, I just don't have the fedia right now!

Magpul MBUS Rear Back Up Iron Sight - Black

Magpul MBUS FRONT Back Up Iron Sight - Black

sunofnun · 06-09-2009, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatFugg

If your lookin to put BUIS on your build BravoCompany has the new MagPul MBUS front & rears in stock. They are an inexpensive alternative to metal BUIS. I will probably get a set down the line, I just don't have the fedia right now!

Magpul MBUS Rear Back Up Iron Sight - Black

Magpul MBUS FRONT Back Up Iron Sight - Black

ha ha.. those are exactly the ones I want!!!! a guy just demo'd them for me at the shop the other day.. nice find I'm on it.

sunofnun · 06-09-2009, 04:27 PM

Ordered!!!!!!!!

FatFugg · 06-09-2009, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunofnun

ha ha.. those are exactly the ones I want!!!! a guy just demo'd them for me at the shop the other day.. nice find I'm on it.

Sweet deal! I'm still lookin for an upper for ya! So if you get one post up, so as I know you are already good to go!

sunofnun · 06-09-2009, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatFugg

Sweet deal! I'm still lookin for an upper for ya! So if you get one post up, so as I know you are already good to go!

so I'm about %99 I'm getting this one.. its used from a local guy. Found it on ARF.com I think I'm picking it up on saturday.

Sabre Defence Upper with 16" Stainless Fluted Barrel

- Daniels Defense 10.0 Lite Rail
- Includes Bolt Carrier Group and Forged Charging Handle!!!
- Comes with 3 ladder style rail covers

*Everything is brand new and never used

Pictures are just to show what it could look like so I put the upper on one of my lowers for fun. I've never even pull the charging handle back or anything :)

Pics are huge.. but you can see that it looks pretty clean..

FatFugg · 06-09-2009, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunofnun

so I'm about %99 I'm getting this one.. its used from a local guy. Found it on ARF.com I think I'm picking it up on saturday.

Sabre Defence Upper with 16" Stainless Fluted Barrel

- Daniels Defense 10.0 Lite Rail
- Includes Bolt Carrier Group and Forged Charging Handle!!!
- Comes with 3 ladder style rail covers

*Everything is brand new and never used

Pictures are just to show what it could look like so I put the upper on one of my lowers for fun. I've never even pull the charging handle back or anything :)

That is exactly what I am planning to get for my next upper once riding season is over & I have some cash!. Did he get it from PKFirearms? It looks just like the setup they had a few weeks back that I posted. If you don't mind me asking, whats he want for it? I have no intention of trying to get it, just like to keep up on going prices. A PM would be fine if you don't want to post it!

sunofnun · 06-14-2009, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatFugg

That is exactly what I am planning to get for my next upper once riding season is over & I have some cash!. Did he get it from PKFirearms? It looks just like the setup they had a few weeks back that I posted. If you don't mind me asking, whats he want for it? I have no intention of trying to get it, just like to keep up on going prices. A PM would be fine if you don't want to post it!

got it... got sights on it, and gonna shoot it today!
I gave him $900 for the upper. and it was local so it was FTF no shipping!

I think he got it from saber. He had all the original paperwork and warranty. Never fired.

sunofnun · 06-22-2009, 10:14 PM

alright all the finished pics:

AlecR6 · 06-22-2009, 11:46 PM

Sweet rifles. Makes me want to add a railed mid length to my collection. They are alot of fun to build. Just need to find a thousand or so dollars in dryer next load.

Your upper cost more than the whole rifle I just built btw

How do like those Magpul sights? Thought about getting a rear one, but settled on an MI.

sunofnun · 06-25-2009, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlecR6

Sweet rifles. Makes me want to add a railed mid length to my collection. They are alot of fun to build. Just need to find a thousand or so dollars in dryer next load.

Your upper cost more than the whole rifle I just built btw

How do like those Magpul sights? Thought about getting a rear one, but settled on an MI.

I think they're cool.. I have a MI rear BUIS on my 20"

I haven't sited it in yet, so the jury is still out.. I picked up the set for around $90-100 I think... so they're cheap!

I think they're kinda cool, and like the way they flip up, spring loaded..

As far as panning the rifle and acquiring targets they seem really cool... lots of later visibility. If they site in well, and I can group with them I may keep it a iron site shooter for a bit.

I have an aimpoint clone to drop on there.. but I kinda like the stripped down look. I'll post up a range report if I ever get to go shooting again! lol

05-08-2009, 09:08 PM	#1
sunofnun Moderator Joined: Jan 2009 From: lynnhood Posts: 631	Building a New AR Hey fellas, I'm building a AR from a stripped RRA lower I just pickedup So Im thinking a light weight 16 inch setup. Probably gonna pull the 6 postion butstock off my stag arms 20inch and put the magpul precision on there.. SO couple questions. Does anyone have a LPK laying around. I'm thinking of just picking up a RR kit with the two stage trigger. I have a jard kit with about 3lbs of pull in my 20" I'm thinking I want around 4 for this one? AND if youve seen any slick 16 inch setups recently I'd love to see them.. I'm thinking flat top, w/a short picitinny forgrip. maybe a gasblock w/out a fixxed site.. Maybe gonna put a eotech on it? Let the suggestions begin!

05-21-2009, 08:05 PM	#6
FatFugg Sharpshooter Joined: Jan 2009 From: Dri-Shities Posts: 563	Not sure if you found what ya wanted, but here are some retail packaged DPMS LPK's for $70.00! PK Firearms \| Online Store I wish I would have remembered this thread yesterday. They had Sabre Defense 16" stainless fluted barrel flat top uppers with a DD lite rail & BCG for $830.00. You said you wanted a slick 16" setup, that would have been it. I was considering one myself, but I really shouldn't spend the money right now. Last edited by FatFugg; 05-21-2009 at 08:24 PM.

05-28-2009, 03:27 PM	#10
sunofnun Moderator Joined: Jan 2009 From: lynnhood Posts: 631	My new lower is completely assembled, and the hunt for the perfect upper has begun.. I'm thinking about a spikes tactical, vltor vis setup, maybe a POF upper... I want a fluted barrel, and strongly integrated upper w/ picitinny forgrip Last edited by sunofnun; 05-28-2009 at 03:40 PM.

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05-08-2009, 11:10 PM	#2
Metonymy Marksman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Washington Posts: 370	For a tactical rifle, don't use a 2 stage trigger. You want that tight, crisp feel of a heavier trigger. Save the 2 stage and light pull for the precision setup. As for an LPK, they're readily available now. It'll cost you about $85, but they're fairly easy to get a hold of now.

05-09-2009, 02:54 AM	#3
JohnnyB Gunslinger Joined: Feb 2009 From: Oregon Posts: 52	I've had 2 LPK's on backorder from Rguns for almost 2 months. I ordered a second for my brother in law but he has found one locally and bought it. So I'm stuck with 2. If you haven't bought yours by the time mine gets in I'll sell it for exactly what I paid and ship it to ya! It was $60.00 plus shipping. Let me know if you're interested.

05-11-2009, 04:26 AM	#5
Mic Rifleman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Wa Posts: 165	last WAC show I went to, even at 1pm when Jason and I left, MULTIPLE tables still had MULTIPLE LPK's laying around. I'm going to give my 2 cents on LPK's right now, you can take it for what its worth, or just say I'm nuts. I personally like DPMS LPK's better than RRA. In fact, I like DPMS better than any other I've tried. The parts are much more precise. The Detents are also the best I've worked with. I replaced the detents in all my guns with the DPMS ones, with there springs, as they were much more smooth. RRA's are a bit pointed and can "stick" if you don't clean them and the pins up very well (same with the safety selector). Pieces that I have replaced with DPMS parts from my RRA and other kits are the following. Detents and Springs Mag Release Safety Selector

05-28-2009, 03:45 PM	#11
Metonymy Marksman Joined: Jan 2009 From: Washington Posts: 370	I have a Spikes upper. Love it. No fluted barrel. I tossed on a LaRue Tactical 10" rail... it's good to go. :)

06-01-2009, 03:54 PM	#12
FatFugg Sharpshooter Joined: Jan 2009 From: Dri-Shities Posts: 563	These aren't as high end as I think your looking for, but their in stock! Check um out! PK Firearms \| Online Store

06-03-2009, 02:50 PM	#15
sunofnun Moderator Joined: Jan 2009 From: lynnhood Posts: 631	ha ha that's funny! I was looking at the Vltor VIS this morning and thinking of a noveske barrel!!!!

06-09-2009, 02:24 PM	#16
FatFugg Sharpshooter Joined: Jan 2009 From: Dri-Shities Posts: 563	If your lookin to put BUIS on your build BravoCompany has the new MagPul MBUS front & rears in stock. They are an inexpensive alternative to metal BUIS. I will probably get a set down the line, I just don't have the fedia right now! Magpul MBUS Rear Back Up Iron Sight - Black Magpul MBUS FRONT Back Up Iron Sight - Black

06-09-2009, 04:27 PM	#18
sunofnun Moderator Joined: Jan 2009 From: lynnhood Posts: 631	Ordered!!!!!!!!

06-22-2009, 10:14 PM	#23
sunofnun Moderator Joined: Jan 2009 From: lynnhood Posts: 631	alright all the finished pics:

06-22-2009, 11:46 PM	#24
AlecR6 Gunslinger Joined: Jun 2009 From: Olympia, WA Posts: 64	Sweet rifles. Makes me want to add a railed mid length to my collection. They are alot of fun to build. Just need to find a thousand or so dollars in dryer next load. Your upper cost more than the whole rifle I just built btw How do like those Magpul sights? Thought about getting a rear one, but settled on an MI.