Concealed versus Open Carry? - Page 2

Little Bear · 03-25-2011, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by archdruid9

i have seen a few comments that open carry does not give a tactical advantage, and one post even said what would a criminal do if he saw a person with a weapon. well id imagine most would go pick an easier target, but if everyone open carried there would be no easier targets righ? and if there is a visible deterrent than there is no tactical advantage nessesary besides better training than the bad guy. i also see alot of posts say that concealment is preffered because they dont want to be hassled. well, isnt that letting ignorant people dictate to you what you are going to do (i dont know about everyone else here but i think personally that allowing an ignorant person to dictate my actions makes me ignorant too) if everyone who carries suddenly open carried im sure people would find out the laws pretty quickly. if your carrying concealed all the time are you doing anything to educate and further the cause or just avoiding uncomfort? anytime i get hassled about a weapon i calmly explain what our laws are regarding carry and then ask the person " if you are still uncomfortable because you think its dangerous id be more than happy to take you to an appleseed shoot so you can learn what guns are really about and so you understand the safety and marksmanship training i have gone through to be safe and profficient with my guns. and lastly i saw one post saying that open carrying is just showboating. well i vehemently disagree. im sure there are always gonna be some who do think that open carry just makes them cool. i personally do it because i am morally, socially, and politically opposed to my rights being eroded or flat out taken. the only reason we as gun owners have the problems that we already do, is too many years of allowing ourselvs to be convinced that the rights and privacies that weve had taken already are nessesary sacrifices. for the people that dont like to be hassled, didnt you feel hassled going into the sherriffs station to get fingerprinted like a criminal so you could have you "papers"

Amen to that!

PiNk TCP · 03-26-2011, 08:12 AM

Concealed and going shopping for a trench coat

hualosman · 10-26-2011, 04:58 PM

I personally carry concealed unless not permitted i.e. visiting Oregon. I like being the only person knowing it, usually my wife doesn't even know if I'm carrying or not.

My .02, carrying open is a great way to deter crime. To do that, you need to look like that is your purpose. That means you behave like a cop, patrolling an area and making your presence known. However, if you're trying to protect yourself and/or your family, it can be really inconvenient due to people's perceptions, having the cops called on you, etc. It's one of those rights that I'm glad to have, but unfortunately is one that is time-consuming and potentially dangerous to exercise. No knocks against OCer's, keep up the good work.

hualosman · 10-26-2011, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by archdruid9

i have seen a few comments that open carry does not give a tactical advantage, and one post even said what would a criminal do if he saw a person with a weapon...i also see alot of posts say that concealment is preffered because they dont want to be hassled. well, isnt that letting ignorant people dictate to you what you are going to do (i dont know about everyone else here but i think personally that allowing an ignorant person to dictate my actions makes me ignorant too) if everyone who carries suddenly open carried im sure people would find out the laws pretty quickly...

Unfortunately, ignorant people dictate a lot of our lives. Exhibit #1: The United States House of Representatives · House.gov. Also, and this is not unfortunate, private property owners can decide whether they want to let you on their property with your gun, including stores. Knowing the gun climate in the Seattle area, I have a feeling I would be getting kicked out of a lot of places by a lot of ignorant managers and owners.

fisheral87 · 10-26-2011, 06:58 PM

Responsible citizens should have the right to choose.

Advantages and disadvantages to both.

I think those who do open carry are leading the charge. But I conceal carry because the advantages suit my purpose.

mjn, it all depends on the intent whether they are grand standing or not. For some guys it is, but that is a precarious generalization and one that I think does not describe the majority of responsible individuals who choose to open carry.

Al

Inglewood · 10-27-2011, 01:00 AM

My drop leg holster was a single-strap, and was pretty worthless if I did anything other than walk and stand. It would get tucked behind my knee when on my bike, and it'd smash my knee cap if I had to hustle with it on.

Snagged one of these two weeks ago.

It's rock solid, and it's so comfortable that I forget I'm even wearing it. I can full out run and it's no issue at all. Been open carrying every time I leave the house and have had no issues whatsoever.

deadshot2 · 10-27-2011, 06:37 AM

I just carry-period. I normally wear a light vest because I carry more crap than will fit in my pants pockets. When it gets cold I wear a jacket appropriate for the temperature.

I don't pay a lot of attention as to whether my firearm is concealed or open, I just make sure it's there whenever I leave the house. If I get out to buy gas or take a whiz in a Rest Area I may or may not wear my "cover". Depends on temperature.

I just go about my business and in all the years I have carried (since 1964), I have never been approached by a Law Officer or challenged by any "citizens". I guess if one just goes about their business as usual either nobody notices or nobody cares.

GixxerPete · 10-27-2011, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Inglewood

My drop leg holster was a single-strap, and was pretty worthless if I did anything other than walk and stand. It would get tucked behind my knee when on my bike, and it'd smash my knee cap if I had to hustle with it on.

Snagged one of these two weeks ago.

It's rock solid, and it's so comfortable that I forget I'm even wearing it. I can full out run and it's no issue at all. Been open carrying every time I leave the house and have had no issues whatsoever.

So you're saying you roll around Renton with a drop rig like that, and people don't freak out?? More power to ya, but I just can't see doing that anywhere around the greater Seattle area. But I do want one of those rigs for out in the woods & whatnot, seems more practical than on the hip?

At least I'll know who you are if I see you at a grocery store in Renton or something, I'll be the one not freaking out.

Inglewood · 10-27-2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GixxerPete

At least I'll know who you are if I see you at a grocery store in Renton or something, I'll be the one not freaking out.

Haha, yup. Come say hi. I get the sideways glance here and there, but nobody's glared or said a word or anything like that.

TheRedSkull · 10-28-2011, 05:17 PM

i support both.

Damon · 10-28-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Washington Cease Fire

Our legislative priority for the 2012 state legislative session is to prohibit the unconcealed, open carrying of loaded weapons. It is legal in this state to carry a loaded weapon in full view without a permit, even in government buildings such as the state Capitol – and into legislative hearing rooms during a public hearing. Open carrying of loaded guns was prohibited in Dodge City during the days of the Wild West and is currently prohibited in such gun-friendly states as Texas, Oklahoma and Florida.

http://www.washingtonceasefire.org/advocacy

We all have to keep an eye on this!! I doubt it will get anywhere here in Washington but we all still need to be aware of it.

I support both. I conceal carry 99% of the time. The 1% I OC is when I'm camping in the mountains or going outside my house taking out garbage or getting something from my car.

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03-26-2011, 08:12 AM	#42
PiNk TCP Rifleman Joined: Feb 2011 From: Seattle, Wa Posts: 173	Concealed and going shopping for a trench coat

10-26-2011, 04:58 PM	#43
hualosman Gunslinger Joined: Sep 2011 From: Federal Way, WA Posts: 11	I personally carry concealed unless not permitted i.e. visiting Oregon. I like being the only person knowing it, usually my wife doesn't even know if I'm carrying or not. My .02, carrying open is a great way to deter crime. To do that, you need to look like that is your purpose. That means you behave like a cop, patrolling an area and making your presence known. However, if you're trying to protect yourself and/or your family, it can be really inconvenient due to people's perceptions, having the cops called on you, etc. It's one of those rights that I'm glad to have, but unfortunately is one that is time-consuming and potentially dangerous to exercise. No knocks against OCer's, keep up the good work.

10-26-2011, 06:58 PM	#45
fisheral87 Gunslinger Joined: Jun 2011 From: Everett, WA Posts: 31	Responsible citizens should have the right to choose. Advantages and disadvantages to both. I think those who do open carry are leading the charge. But I conceal carry because the advantages suit my purpose. mjn, it all depends on the intent whether they are grand standing or not. For some guys it is, but that is a precarious generalization and one that I think does not describe the majority of responsible individuals who choose to open carry. Al

10-27-2011, 01:00 AM	#46
Inglewood Gunslinger Joined: Mar 2011 From: Renton, WA Posts: 64	My drop leg holster was a single-strap, and was pretty worthless if I did anything other than walk and stand. It would get tucked behind my knee when on my bike, and it'd smash my knee cap if I had to hustle with it on. Snagged one of these two weeks ago. It's rock solid, and it's so comfortable that I forget I'm even wearing it. I can full out run and it's no issue at all. Been open carrying every time I leave the house and have had no issues whatsoever.

10-27-2011, 06:37 AM	#47
deadshot2 Marksman Joined: May 2011 From: NW Quadrant WA State Posts: 288	I just carry-period. I normally wear a light vest because I carry more crap than will fit in my pants pockets. When it gets cold I wear a jacket appropriate for the temperature. I don't pay a lot of attention as to whether my firearm is concealed or open, I just make sure it's there whenever I leave the house. If I get out to buy gas or take a whiz in a Rest Area I may or may not wear my "cover". Depends on temperature. I just go about my business and in all the years I have carried (since 1964), I have never been approached by a Law Officer or challenged by any "citizens". I guess if one just goes about their business as usual either nobody notices or nobody cares.

10-28-2011, 05:17 PM	#50
TheRedSkull Rifleman Joined: Apr 2011 From: Corvallis, OR Posts: 204	i support both.