So I'm a little worried.

Pitkeeper1 · 04-10-2011, 01:06 AM

I was cycling my AR tonight/this morning with live ammo. I would put the magazine in charge my weapon then drop the magazine and then pull the charging handle to eject the round. Then after I did that I would visually safety check my weapon.

Well what concerns me is. I ejected the first round( I cycled 6 rounds) and noticed a tiny indentation on the primer of my cartridge. Like the firing pin just touched the primer.

1. Is that normal?

2. Is that safe?

3. Why is that happening?

I have done no fieldstripping of my weapon till tonight when I noticed this. When I broke down my ar for the first time ever tonight. I pulled the charging handle and the bolt carrier group out. I did not go any further then that. I replaced my charging handle and bolt carrier locked the upper to the lower and called it good.

Any help or advise on this matter would be much appreciated.

I will give two links to my photobucket account to give you a visual of what I mean. Sorry that's the only way I can do pictures from my iPhone.

http://emob126.photobucket.com/album...g?t=1302425219

http://emob126.photobucket.com/album...g?t=1302425217

thank you in advance.

Brianaintright · 04-10-2011, 01:48 AM

Perfectly normal.

AR firing pin floats so as the bolt comes forward, it leaves a slight dent on the primer.

TheRedSkull · 04-10-2011, 02:33 AM

totally normal most of the ammo i used in the army had this, its not an issue...

Pitkeeper1 · 04-10-2011, 10:55 AM

Thank you both for your reply! I was seriously curious if this was an issue. I'm glad to hear it's normal. I was hoping I didn't ruin my gun or something.

Thanks again.

TheRedSkull · 04-10-2011, 12:20 PM

my pleasure, i used to wonder the same thing, but never had an issue.

Iris Mark · 07-22-2011, 02:52 AM

dont worry........ be happy

philster · 07-22-2011, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iris Mark

dont worry........ be happy

and buy snap caps!

Don't worry be Happy!

Doo doo doo doo dee doo doo dee doo doo doo doo doo Don't worry...

migxdm · 07-22-2011, 09:21 AM

lol and hopefully you didnt reload those rounds with federal primers :D naw im just kidding should be fine with those.............

bigggbbruce · 07-22-2011, 12:00 PM

I assume you were in the house.

Why would you cycle in the house with live ammo...? Can you say accident..

Did you just want to see the live shells eject or are they reloads that you were actually checking for feed issues...?

Cycling live ammo should only be done where you expect the weapon to fire...

It is possible for that round to go off... can you say accident... oh, I already did... and have seen it happen...

68shooter · 07-22-2011, 11:43 PM

Big Bruce I'm sure you seen it. I'm sure you have tons of experience and I don't. But atleast I had pointed the gun at my purty hardwood floor. I can go with holes there instead of oh let's say my wall toward the bedroom where my babies lay there heads to rest. wouldn't want an accident. I'm imperfect. What to do now with my life.......

68shooter · 07-22-2011, 11:44 PM

Snap caps is a good idea.

bigggbbruce · 07-23-2011, 09:34 AM

Well I may not know everything, but I do know not to PLAY with loaded weapons in the house... and I do not chamber a gun pointed at the floor either...

I chamber my SD guns pointed at a far ceiling corner so there would be no ricochet, or shraplen flying around...

But it seems like you know just what your doing, don't let me stop you...I'll just be sure not to live in your neighborhood...

Sharecropper · 07-23-2011, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigggbbruce

Well I may not know everything, but I do know not to PLAY with loaded weapons in the house... and I do not chamber a gun pointed at the floor either...

I chamber my SD guns pointed at a far ceiling corner so there would be no ricochet, or shraplen flying around...

But it seems like you know just what your doing, don't let me stop you...I'll just be sure not to live in your neighborhood...

Personally, when I cycle with live ammo, I point the muzzle at my computer scre

68shooter · 07-23-2011, 03:30 PM

Wow when did I say I was playing with my firearm? That's fine you don't have to live next to me.

bigggbbruce · 07-23-2011, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68shooter

Wow when did I say I was playing with my firearm? That's fine you don't have to live next to me.

Curious.. you are not the OP of this thread.. yet you are getting a bit of a tude about things...

So I guess I'm talking to two people that are unsafe with their weapons...

68shooter · 07-26-2011, 12:43 AM

Bruce c'mon man seriously. First you are talking to the orignal poster of this thread. My other account wasn't working for some reason. Secondly I have no problems with helpful advice. But when you come and try to be all knowing with your sarcasm and your "assuming" I can go with out that. You made your point. Keep it moving. Go forth and layeth you your expertise upon another thread. I didn't come here cause I knew it all. Lol. I came here to learn. A helpful "hey man maybe cycling your firearm out side in the woods is a better idea" I could have lived with. No prob. But since your almighty man I can't argue with you. And actually have very little energy to do so. Or at least willing to donate. The person saying try snap caps. That works for me. Good idea next time. Very helpful. Bruce you not so much. Sorry. Have a good day. And don't put holes in your roof. You know. What goes up must come down 

68shooter · 07-26-2011, 12:47 AM

And what in the wrold is a tude?

1911er · 07-26-2011, 12:54 AM

[QUOTE=68shooter;14288]And what in the wrold is a tude?[/QUOTe
what in the world is a wrold, A tude is an attitude!!

68shooter · 07-26-2011, 01:41 AM

Good to know. I didn't realize I was having a tude. Usually everyone says I'm easy going. Go figure.

bigggbbruce · 07-26-2011, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68shooter

Big Bruce I'm sure you seen it. I'm sure you have tons of experience and I don't. But atleast I had pointed the gun at my purty hardwood floor. I can go with holes there instead of oh let's say my wall toward the bedroom where my babies lay there heads to rest. wouldn't want an accident. I'm imperfect. What to do now with my life.......

I think this is sarcasm...

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68shooter

Bruce c'mon man seriously. First you are talking to the orignal poster of this thread. My other account wasn't working for some reason. Secondly I have no problems with helpful advice. But when you come and try to be all knowing with your sarcasm and your "assuming" I can go with out that. You made your point. Keep it moving. Go forth and layeth you your expertise upon another thread. I didn't come here cause I knew it all. Lol. I came here to learn. A helpful "hey man maybe cycling your firearm out side in the woods is a better idea" I could have lived with. No prob. But since your almighty man I can't argue with you. And actually have very little energy to do so. Or at least willing to donate. The person saying try snap caps. That works for me. Good idea next time. Very helpful. Bruce you not so much. Sorry. Have a good day. And don't put holes in your roof. You know. What goes up must come down 

I felt I was being helpful by recomending not cycling a live weapon in the house.... Don't know the need for that..

Accidents happen when least expected... that's why they are accidents...

I guess I shouldn't have assumed you were in the house while doing this as the time and pictures made it obvious...

We all laugh at the idiots that post videos and pictures of shooting themselves or putting holes in the neighbors walls...

To often I see people handling guns in unsafe manners at the range and I am quick to stop them... with the support of the range officers...

You could have just gone on... instead of some breathy sarcastic response..

Have a good day yourself.... Next...

qballrail · 08-11-2011, 03:06 PM

What is he talking about? Is ammo cycling important? And, obviously, you don't want to do it in the house but if your city has firearms discharge laws, where can you do this?

deadshot2 · 08-12-2011, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qballrail

What is he talking about? Is ammo cycling important? And, obviously, you don't want to do it in the house but if your city has firearms discharge laws, where can you do this?

In the Army we used to use a 5 gallon pail full of sand. Just hold the muzzle in the opening of the bucket and "cycle away". IF a round was discharged it merely got trapped in the sand. Beats pointing it at a floor, especially if it isn't a ground floor and might have people on the floor below.

GixxerPete · 08-12-2011, 08:11 AM

There are legitimate reasons to cycle live rounds, like testing reloads, or to clear a loaded weapon. If you follow the 4 basic rules of firearm safety, it shouldn't be a problem. Am I going to go outside to unload a weapon to take it to the range? Of course not, I'll cycle the live round out, confirm it's cleared and put in the range bag.

It really boils down to those 4 basic safety rules... ALWAYS obey them. And if you really need to clear weapons often, deadshot2's suggestion is simple and effective.

04-10-2011, 01:06 AM	#1
Pitkeeper1 Gunslinger Joined: Mar 2011 From: Tacoma Posts: 41	So I'm a little worried. I was cycling my AR tonight/this morning with live ammo. I would put the magazine in charge my weapon then drop the magazine and then pull the charging handle to eject the round. Then after I did that I would visually safety check my weapon. Well what concerns me is. I ejected the first round( I cycled 6 rounds) and noticed a tiny indentation on the primer of my cartridge. Like the firing pin just touched the primer. 1. Is that normal? 2. Is that safe? 3. Why is that happening? I have done no fieldstripping of my weapon till tonight when I noticed this. When I broke down my ar for the first time ever tonight. I pulled the charging handle and the bolt carrier group out. I did not go any further then that. I replaced my charging handle and bolt carrier locked the upper to the lower and called it good. Any help or advise on this matter would be much appreciated. I will give two links to my photobucket account to give you a visual of what I mean. Sorry that's the only way I can do pictures from my iPhone. http://emob126.photobucket.com/album...g?t=1302425219 http://emob126.photobucket.com/album...g?t=1302425217 thank you in advance.

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04-10-2011, 01:48 AM	#2
Brianaintright Marksman Joined: Nov 2009 From: WA Posts: 384	Perfectly normal. AR firing pin floats so as the bolt comes forward, it leaves a slight dent on the primer.

04-10-2011, 02:33 AM	#3
TheRedSkull Rifleman Joined: Apr 2011 From: Corvallis, OR Posts: 218	totally normal most of the ammo i used in the army had this, its not an issue...

04-10-2011, 10:55 AM	#4
Pitkeeper1 Gunslinger Joined: Mar 2011 From: Tacoma Posts: 41	Thank you both for your reply! I was seriously curious if this was an issue. I'm glad to hear it's normal. I was hoping I didn't ruin my gun or something. Thanks again.

04-10-2011, 12:20 PM	#5
TheRedSkull Rifleman Joined: Apr 2011 From: Corvallis, OR Posts: 218	my pleasure, i used to wonder the same thing, but never had an issue.

07-22-2011, 02:52 AM	#6
Iris Mark Newbie Joined: Jul 2011 From: USA Posts: 3	dont worry........ be happy

07-22-2011, 09:21 AM	#8
migxdm Rifleman Joined: Feb 2009 From: redmond,wa Posts: 246	lol and hopefully you didnt reload those rounds with federal primers :D naw im just kidding should be fine with those.............

07-22-2011, 12:00 PM	#9
bigggbbruce Rifleman Joined: Apr 2011 From: Oregon Posts: 156	I assume you were in the house. Why would you cycle in the house with live ammo...? Can you say accident.. Did you just want to see the live shells eject or are they reloads that you were actually checking for feed issues...? Cycling live ammo should only be done where you expect the weapon to fire... It is possible for that round to go off... can you say accident... oh, I already did... and have seen it happen...

07-22-2011, 11:43 PM	#10
68shooter Gunslinger Joined: May 2011 From: Tacoma Posts: 63	Big Bruce I'm sure you seen it. I'm sure you have tons of experience and I don't. But atleast I had pointed the gun at my purty hardwood floor. I can go with holes there instead of oh let's say my wall toward the bedroom where my babies lay there heads to rest. wouldn't want an accident. I'm imperfect. What to do now with my life.......

07-22-2011, 11:44 PM	#11
68shooter Gunslinger Joined: May 2011 From: Tacoma Posts: 63	Snap caps is a good idea.

07-23-2011, 09:34 AM	#12
bigggbbruce Rifleman Joined: Apr 2011 From: Oregon Posts: 156	Well I may not know everything, but I do know not to PLAY with loaded weapons in the house... and I do not chamber a gun pointed at the floor either... I chamber my SD guns pointed at a far ceiling corner so there would be no ricochet, or shraplen flying around... But it seems like you know just what your doing, don't let me stop you...I'll just be sure not to live in your neighborhood...

07-23-2011, 03:30 PM	#14
68shooter Gunslinger Joined: May 2011 From: Tacoma Posts: 63	Wow when did I say I was playing with my firearm? That's fine you don't have to live next to me.

07-26-2011, 12:43 AM	#16
68shooter Gunslinger Joined: May 2011 From: Tacoma Posts: 63	Bruce c'mon man seriously. First you are talking to the orignal poster of this thread. My other account wasn't working for some reason. Secondly I have no problems with helpful advice. But when you come and try to be all knowing with your sarcasm and your "assuming" I can go with out that. You made your point. Keep it moving. Go forth and layeth you your expertise upon another thread. I didn't come here cause I knew it all. Lol. I came here to learn. A helpful "hey man maybe cycling your firearm out side in the woods is a better idea" I could have lived with. No prob. But since your almighty man I can't argue with you. And actually have very little energy to do so. Or at least willing to donate. The person saying try snap caps. That works for me. Good idea next time. Very helpful. Bruce you not so much. Sorry. Have a good day. And don't put holes in your roof. You know. What goes up must come down 

07-26-2011, 12:47 AM	#17
68shooter Gunslinger Joined: May 2011 From: Tacoma Posts: 63	And what in the wrold is a tude?

07-26-2011, 12:54 AM	#18
1911er Gunslinger Joined: Jul 2011 From: Port Orchard WA. Posts: 30	[QUOTE=68shooter;14288]And what in the wrold is a tude?[/QUOTe what in the world is a wrold, A tude is an attitude!!

07-26-2011, 01:41 AM	#19
68shooter Gunslinger Joined: May 2011 From: Tacoma Posts: 63	Good to know. I didn't realize I was having a tude. Usually everyone says I'm easy going. Go figure.

08-11-2011, 03:06 PM	#21
qballrail Rifleman Joined: Aug 2011 From: South Puget Sound Posts: 220	What is he talking about? Is ammo cycling important? And, obviously, you don't want to do it in the house but if your city has firearms discharge laws, where can you do this?

08-12-2011, 08:11 AM	#23
GixxerPete Sharpshooter Joined: Jan 2009 From: Renton, WA Posts: 751	There are legitimate reasons to cycle live rounds, like testing reloads, or to clear a loaded weapon. If you follow the 4 basic rules of firearm safety, it shouldn't be a problem. Am I going to go outside to unload a weapon to take it to the range? Of course not, I'll cycle the live round out, confirm it's cleared and put in the range bag. It really boils down to those 4 basic safety rules... ALWAYS obey them. And if you really need to clear weapons often, deadshot2's suggestion is simple and effective.