Take off the tinfoil....well, some of it

Aug 2011
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Jan 2009
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Lynnwood, WA
[And if was just consumers making runs on ammo, the big-box stores would have ammo and manufacturers would be running 24/7 but apparently they are not.

as to the rest of your ****....I'm not gonna respond. I didn't do the research to do it, and you didn't either.

but it's not the first ammo shortage I've been through, and it won't be the last.

people are buying it. really. that's why all the weird calibers, shitty brands, everything is gone. no department uses a 16g in light hunting shot...those shelves are empty too.
 
Jan 2013
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Silverton, OR
Well me and the other 87 guys standing in front of Cabelas 2 hours before the doors open so we can rush to the Customer service desk and buy all the ammo they have before they even bother to put it on the shelves. Were talking and we think its the Governement that buying it all up. I helped one guy with 3)bricks of .22 shells 3) boxes of .223 3) boxes of 9mm out to his pickup. He was busy posting it all on line for twice what he paid for it. He's sure its the government. but we agreed to meet again on Wednesday morning when the next truck shows up. He says he can show me proof that its all an Obama Plot.


NO GOVERNMENT EMP WALKED INTO Bochslers Hardware Store in Mt Angel Oregon and Bought up the 3 boxes of 30-40Krag they had had on the shelf for 3 years.

What do Democrats and Gun owners have in common? The need to blame someone else for their problems.

And no I'm not a Obama fan nor a Democrat but I have watched all this crap since 1968. When my Dad and his buddies first got into reloading in case the Gun control Act of 68 made it hard to get ammo.
 
Aug 2011
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South Puget Sound
as to the rest of your ****....I'm not gonna respond. I didn't do the research to do it, and you didn't either.

but it's not the first ammo shortage I've been through, and it won't be the last.

people are buying it. really. that's why all the weird calibers, shitty brands, everything is gone. no department uses a 16g in light hunting shot...those shelves are empty too.

Well, contrary to your beliefs, I did do some research on it. Although I've not exhausted countless hours on research, I've found the government IS behind THIS shortage. Watch the videos I posted. As far as the weird caliburs not being on the shelves, that's all I've found are the weird caliburs! 222, 7mm, 10mm, and the 16gauge you mentioned among others. I can't recall all of the odd one's but that's the short list. Just last night, the Mrs. and I went to Wallyworld and lo & behold, ODD caliburs!

No, sir, you can be assured, the DHS is behind much of the shortage. Like I said, nothing to be found in the Big Box stores, so that should tell you something. The other thing is stores are placing limits on customer purchases. With these limits, there should be SOMETHING in the popular cals.

Anyway, I've said all that needs to be said on this topic. There is a limited ways to put it, but "that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!"
 
Aug 2011
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South Puget Sound
NO GOVERNMENT EMP WALKED INTO Bochslers Hardware Store in Mt Angel Oregon and Bought up the 3 boxes of 30-40Krag they had had on the shelf for 3 years.

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Government Employees are not going to walk into a hardware store for any purchases, let alone 3 boxes of 30-40K... (not on offical business like this anyway.... they PO it then have it shipped to a warehouse. :/ And it's not the odd cals they are interested in either.
 
Dec 2012
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Lacey, Wa
hmmm

Ive yet to deal with an ammo shortage, and I continuously shoot weekly.


btw, Cabelas had not just s shelf of 223 but they had an entire section of it.

loads of all the popular stuff...and a fuckton of shotgun stuff.


I say meh to ammo shortage.
 
Jan 2009
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Kirkland, WA
Unbelievable that you hadn't noticed any shortage.

For weeks/months it was near impossible to find any. It's only been the past few weeks that it's started coming back into stores with any regularity...
 
Jan 2009
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Renton, WA
I think ShelbyGuy:

A) was out of the country the last 6 months or so, and totally missed the shortage.
B) already had his own massive personal stash that would take years to deplete, so he didn't notice the shortage.
C) works for DHS/govt and is in fact the guy buying up all the ammo, causing the shortage!
D) all of the above
 
May 2013
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portland
in rome they hoarded and profiteered off grain

I have been observing for a few years and noticed that during our military incursions our government purchases a lot of ammo. This of course makes sense as went you go to war you USE ammo. This 1) sucks available resources, powder, lead, copper, brass, primers. 2) drives up costs due to competition for available resources, 3) restricts availability for private useage as in EVERY prior incursion, 4) presupposes public support for incursion and a willingness to give up private useage for public benefit 5) Brings out hoarders and profiteers from the public and industry 6) spawns anti-government paranoia.

Meat prices ran amok in the civil war, they sold tainted meat to the troops, more of whom died in the field of disease than combat and made Armor meats into a mega corporation. Private sector and government contractors made a killing and the troops got killed.

WW1 same crap, Arms manufacturers plundered the public coffers for an utterly trumped up affair.

WW2 Brits gave up their ornamental victorian ironwork for manufacturing...Buckingham palace waited until after the war and took THEIR ornamental ironwork out of storage where they had been hiding it, and you can go see it today.

and behind it all, people were hoarding and selling black market. Today we see people buying guns and ammo they neither want nor can use and they turn around and sell it online for 4x what they paid.

Of course like the guy who hoarded and profiteered off of rubber tires, gas and sugar coupons in WW2, todays participants wait on the parking lot for the truck, run in and buy everything and then say..."It's the gov'ment!" Damn that (Reagan, Bush, Roosevelt, Obama!)

To the guy who bought the $349 Polish Tantal with the casing naow jammed in his breech and trying to sell it for $900, look in the mirror. People want a market economy and when they get one they run amok and blame others.
 
Jan 2009
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I have been observing for a few years and noticed that during our military incursions our government purchases a lot of ammo. This of course makes sense as went you go to war you USE ammo. This 1) sucks available resources, powder, lead, copper, brass, primers. 2) drives up costs due to competition for available resources, 3) restricts availability for private useage as in EVERY prior incursion, 4) presupposes public support for incursion and a willingness to give up private useage for public benefit 5) Brings out hoarders and profiteers from the public and industry 6) spawns anti-government paranoia.

Meat prices ran amok in the civil war, they sold tainted meat to the troops, more of whom died in the field of disease than combat and made Armor meats into a mega corporation. Private sector and government contractors made a killing and the troops got killed.

WW1 same crap, Arms manufacturers plundered the public coffers for an utterly trumped up affair.

WW2 Brits gave up their ornamental victorian ironwork for manufacturing...Buckingham palace waited until after the war and took THEIR ornamental ironwork out of storage where they had been hiding it, and you can go see it today.

and behind it all, people were hoarding and selling black market. Today we see people buying guns and ammo they neither want nor can use and they turn around and sell it online for 4x what they paid.

Of course like the guy who hoarded and profiteered off of rubber tires, gas and sugar coupons in WW2, todays participants wait on the parking lot for the truck, run in and buy everything and then say..."It's the gov'ment!" Damn that (Reagan, Bush, Roosevelt, Obama!)

To the guy who bought the $349 Polish Tantal with the casing naow jammed in his breech and trying to sell it for $900, look in the mirror. People want a market economy and when they get one they run amok and blame others.


that's a pretty good summary.. we have noone to blame but ourselves.
 
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