Carry at Indian Casinos?

BigStick · Mar 9, 2010

I think I remember reading something about this when I was going through the carry laws last, but I can't remember where.

Is it legal to carry into Indian casinos with your CPL?

I realize that to some extent, they have their own rules and laws, but I was wondering if there was somewhere that laid it out in writing? Some of them have "No Weapons" posted on their doors on the way in, but in WA, signs banning guns have no weight. Do they apply at the casinos because they are indian land, or do the signs still not matter?

I would like to know where to find the regulations, and possibly who to ask as far as the tribes go to figure it out if anyone knows.

Kolat · Mar 9, 2010

Kolat · Mar 9, 2010

I'll just throw this out there take it how you will.

concealed means concealed.

T

BigStick · Mar 9, 2010

I live in WA and am primarily concerned with WA, but I have family and visit OR regularly, although, I am thinking if it is federally regulated, the rules might be the same.

If they just frown on it and can only ask you to leave, then yes, concealed means concealed, but if you ever had to use it for self defense, having an illegal weapon turns self defense into something a whole lot messier, and you end up being the one in jail. I prefer to avoid those sittuations if possible.

JayD1981 · Mar 9, 2010

Since casinos are private property, they can allow or prohibit firearms as they please. Also, reservations are not bound by washington premption law, so you may not even be permitted to carry a fire arm on that reservation at all. Best to check with the local tribal police first.

Kolat · Mar 9, 2010

BigStick said:
If they just frown on it and can only ask you to leave, then yes, concealed means concealed, but if you ever had to use it for self defense, having an illegal weapon turns self defense into something a whole lot messier, and you end up being the one in jail. I prefer to avoid those sittuations if possible.

I would hope that you would'nt be using it unless you felt an imminent danger to yourself or someone you cared about. As the saying goes I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

T

BigStick · Mar 9, 2010

JayD1981 said:
... reservations are not bound by washington premption law...

that's what I was thinking, but would the rest of the laws apply unless the tribe has specific statutes? Because I just remembered where I thought the WA law might cover this topic. It forbids the possesion of guns in any part of establishments that require a person to be 21 to enter (written for alcohol reasons) I wonder if this topic would fall under that umbrella, or if it is specifically up to the tribes.

JayD1981 · Mar 9, 2010

BigStick said:
that's what I was thinking, but would the rest of the laws apply unless the tribe has specific statutes? Because I just remembered where I thought the WA law might cover this topic. It forbids the possesion of guns in any part of establishments that require a person to be 21 to enter (written for alcohol reasons) I wonder if this topic would fall under that umbrella, or if it is specifically up to the tribes.

That could possibly cover it too. I try to stay up on current gun laws, but how laws are enacted on tribal reservations is a grey area that I'm not too familiar with. You best bet for the correct answer to your questions is most likely the tribal police for the reservation in question.

GregM · Mar 9, 2010

BigStick said:
If they just frown on it and can only ask you to leave, then yes, concealed means concealed, but if you ever had to use it for self defense, having an illegal weapon turns self defense into something a whole lot messier, and you end up being the one in jail. I prefer to avoid those sittuations if possible.

I understand what you are getting at but I will refer to the old saying.....

I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6

JuiceBox · Mar 9, 2010

i was at tulalip last nite. the sign on the door referenced an rcw, can't remember which one, but said no weapons, violators will be persecuted under rcw xx.xxx...at least i think it was an rcw...

GregM · Mar 9, 2010

Might have to do with alcohol, if they have alcohol.
Hey wait, RCWs aren't in effect on sovereign nation land.
Something sounds fishy

JuiceBox · Mar 9, 2010

GregM said:
Might have to do with alcohol, if they have alcohol.
Hey wait, RCWs aren't in effect on sovereign nation land.
Something sounds fishy

i didn't look too closely. it was some legal dewy decimal number nonsense that didn't concern me because i left my firearm at home.

Skinny · Mar 9, 2010

In Oregon there like any other private business. If it's nit posted your good to go nits always a good idea to call them up before you go and ask security. If it's on a reservation it's up to the chief if you can come on to the reservation and if you can carry. I know when I was in the repo biz we had to call and ask for permission to come on to get a truck

Thanatos · Mar 10, 2010

I used to carry on the Tulalip reservation because it was in the area around where I was living in Arlington. I always wondered if it was illegal or not but I did it anyways. Never had any trouble though. I did notice that they had Tribal police pulling over and citing speeders on I-5 near the reservation too.

GregM · Mar 10, 2010

It sort of interesting that we seem to have come full circle.
Back in the cowboy days men/gamblers carried guns even though it was against some city laws. Those were the "belly guns" that were easily concealed from the sheriff and other "law dogs". Also derringers and pepper boxes (etc) that were small and easily concealable. Knives, walking cane guns and swords etc etc.

Where there's a will, there's a way

BigStick · Mar 10, 2010

GregM said:
I understand what you are getting at but I will refer to the old saying.....

I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6

I am not dissagreeing with that statement either, I just prefer to stay out of sittuations where it is a concern. I don't have to go to the casino, or if I choose to, I can make a point to be extra aware so it does not become an issue. I just like having as much info as possible. Knowledge can be a weapon and tool as well.

SneakySir · Mar 10, 2010

JuiceBox said:
i was at tulalip last nite. the sign on the door referenced an rcw, can't remember which one, but said no weapons, violators will be persecuted under rcw xx.xxx...at least i think it was an rcw...

You cannot carry at all in any casino that serves alcohol for the obvious reason that you cannot carry in a liquor serving establishment. That's the RCW that the doors quote.

Skinny · Mar 10, 2010

In Oregon you can carry in places that serve alcohol. One thing I love about the hippies here

svytlana · Mar 10, 2010

you can carry in places that serve liquor on washington as long as it's not age restricted.

rcw 9.41.300 part d

as long as it's not age restricted over 21 only. it's ok to go into a resturant etc that serves liquor aslong as it's not age restricted, ie.. not the bar

SneakySir · Mar 12, 2010

svytlana said:
you can carry in places that serve liquor on washington as long as it's not age restricted.

rcw 9.41.300 part d

as long as it's not age restricted over 21 only. it's ok to go into a resturant etc that serves liquor aslong as it's not age restricted, ie.. not the bar

Tulalip is 21 and over, you cannot carry. I've seen what happens if you do.

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