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Old 10-28-2011, 03:37 AM   #1
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Military Firearm Ownership Question

So I have a friend who got out of the military after basic training, never found out why, but he said he was unable to own any firearms for 3 years after his release date, I'm just wondering if anyone knows why that would be? I know if you get a dishonorable discharge you're not able to own firearms but just curious what kind of discharge would prevent you from owning them for a 3 year period then you're able to purchase them? Just curious..
 
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Old 10-28-2011, 06:36 AM   #2
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The "why" might be the key.

How old? If he was 18, then the three years he may be referring to would be the amount of time until he turned 21.
 
Old 10-28-2011, 07:22 AM   #3
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well.. I guess you could use google and/or wikipedia:

Military discharge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dishonorable
A dishonorable discharge (DD), like a BCD, is a punitive discharge rather than an administrative discharge. It can only be handed down to an enlisted member by a general court-martial. Dishonorable discharges are handed down for what the military considers the most reprehensible conduct. This type of discharge may be rendered only by conviction at a general court-martial for serious offenses (e.g., desertion, sexual assault, murder, etc.) that call for dishonorable discharge as part of the sentence. It is colloquially known as a "Duck Dinner".
With this characterization of service, all veterans' benefits are lost, regardless of any past honorable service. This type of discharge is regarded as shameful in the military. In many states a dishonorable discharge is deemed the equivalent of a felony conviction, with attendant loss of civil rights.[3] Additionally, US federal law prohibits ownership of firearms by those who have been discharged under dishonorable conditions.[4]


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Old 10-28-2011, 09:14 AM   #4
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Was it in fact a dishonorable discharge? There are several levels of DD's as well so it would also depend on what level he was given if he was in fact dishonorably discharged.
 
Old 10-28-2011, 05:11 PM   #5
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a DD would prevent him from owning guns (like most felons), but the 3yrs part makes no sense to me.
unless as deadshot2 pointed out, he was 18 when he went in and then as you said he failed basic, so it sounds like its just a matter of him getting a failure to adapt discharge and his age prevents him from guns, or i guess he could mean he is going to appeal his discharge and attempt to get them to change it to a more favorable status (unlikely these days).
but i doubt he would get a DD out of basic unless he did something really dumb, i know one guy who went awol after basic and therefore got a DD, but most just get yelled at and given a failure to adapt.
 
Old 10-29-2011, 12:27 AM   #6
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I'd have to agree with the red skull.

In my short time in the army (3 years so far) DD's arent very common. It seems most CDR's and 1SG's don't like to give them out much because they don't like their units to look bad.

We had a kid pop hot on a UA twice, and they gave him an honorable discharge in addition to awards and service medals. We were in The Sandbox at the time though, so maybe that had something to do with it.
 
Old 10-29-2011, 06:46 AM   #7
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There are five ways to characterize a discharge: Honorable; General (under honorable conditions); Under Other than Honorable Conditions (UOTHC); Bad Conduct; and Dishonorable. The first three are given when a service member is administratively discharged, while the latter two are the outcome of the judicial process.
{from an Air Force Base website}

Anything other than an Honorable Discharge can hang over one's head after they leave the Service. Only one that seems to have any effect on gun ownership/possession is the Dishonorable Discharge. This viewed by the Civilian world as a "felony" conviction.
 
Old 10-29-2011, 09:40 AM   #8
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Never said why he was discharged, he told a friend he lied to get out for "emotional" reasons, he was 20, so it wasn't an age thing. he completed Bootcamp, but a week into his AIT he decided to get out, and spent another 3 weeks at the training facility doing watch duty with other people who were waiting to get out he said he would take people to and from the base hospital and sit at the gate and other stuff.. the whole thing doesn't make alot of sense but I couldn't figure out why they would say you can't own a firearm for 3 years upon being discharged. Oh I forgot to mention for almost a year after he got out he kept saying he was getting back in at the end of the month. I went to the Enlistment office with him one time, and the recruiter said that with his discharge it would be hard for him to get back in, I knew he was just lying about getting back in but just ignored it.

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Old 10-29-2011, 09:54 AM   #9
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Well we've already established he's a fuckin liar, so who knows what the truth about his discharge is.

Maybe he got out for mental reasons & he will need to be reevaluated after three years?
 
Old 10-29-2011, 10:31 AM   #10
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Yea who knows, I've always wondered about the whole firearm thing so I just thought I would ask just to see if anyone had any ideas. He lied about alot of stuff about being in the military even though he was discharged like 5 years ago, he still puts on his uniform and goes to bars with his friends that are still in the marines.. It's rather disrespectful in my opinion.
 
Old 10-30-2011, 08:04 AM   #11
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Maybe he got out for mental reasons & he will need to be reevaluated after three years?
The "Corporal Klinger discharge

Did he by chance wear dresses? Women's underwear? Kiss the Company Commander or Drill Sergeant?
 
Old 10-31-2011, 12:31 AM   #12
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if he left before arrival to his first unit he would be given a failure to adapt and they would send him home, they would be unlikely willing to accept him after that (they got plenty waiting to go), honestly i think he misunderstood his discharge, i mean they dump a lot of legalese on guys being booted, so its easy to misunderstand what is actually happening, especially pre-unit.
 
Old 11-03-2011, 02:52 PM   #13
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Word to the wise? Don't let him shoot your guns until you are confident that is is legally allowed to possess weapons.
 
Old 11-04-2011, 11:40 PM   #14
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Word to the wise? Don't let him shoot your guns until you are confident that is is legally allowed to possess weapons.
Well he has guns now.. He's purchased them from a store so he's legal at this point.
 
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