Anyone have a 2 shot derringer?

sonorousaria · 01-15-2012, 07:11 PM

I'm looking at a bond arms 2 shot derringer in .40 S&W. I have heard from some people that the recoil can be nasty and most only shoot it once then sell it or put it away. I'm looking for someone who has any 2 shot derringer (preferably a bond arms, but i'll shoot any) thats willing to meet me at a range to crack off a few rounds so I can see for myself before I buy one. I live on the north oregon coast. I can travel to the Portland Metro area, or as far a Seattle if I must. I would really appreciate your help.

Thanks!!!

McWeaze · 01-15-2012, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sonorousaria

I'm looking at a bond arms 2 shot derringer in .40 S&W. I have heard from some people that the recoil can be nasty and most only shoot it once then sell it or put it away. I'm looking for someone who has any 2 shot derringer (preferably a bond arms, but i'll shoot any) thats willing to meet me at a range to crack off a few rounds so I can see for myself before I buy one. I live on the north oregon coast. I can travel to the Portland Metro area, or as far a Seattle if I must. I would really appreciate your help.

Thanks!!!

I have a 2 shot .38 and the roll in your hand is pretty nasty... Not a Bond Arms, but I'm sure the're similar

deadshot2 · 01-16-2012, 07:32 AM

Derringer's were never meant to be a "range gun". They were truly a "last chance" defense weapon. That's probably why some buy them, shoot them once, and then sell them.

sonorousaria · 01-16-2012, 09:23 AM

Yes, I understand. Like almost all pocket pistols, it won't be a pleasure to shoot. However, I would still like to be able, if possible, to feel for myself what its like. It needs to be one that I am at least able and willing to manage the recoil on the range because I will need to gain some proficiency with it before I start carrying it.

GixxerPete · 01-16-2012, 03:00 PM

Why that gun? And why a in .40? Just curious, as it's a fairly uncommon combo and choice for a carry gun.

sonorousaria · 01-16-2012, 04:11 PM

These may be stupid reasons but my primary carry gun (Springfield XDSC) is chambered for the .40, so i reason that it will be cheaper to keep a stock of only 1 caliber ammo, instead of 2. I want the derringer because i want a small pocket pistol for backup carry and i dont think the .380 pocket pistols are powerful enough for my liking, and the .357 mag revolvers (LCR and the like) are too big to feel comfortable in my pocket. (I very much dislike bulk and usually take my wallet out when sitting down.)

GixxerPete · 01-17-2012, 08:01 AM

Well I wouldn't let the ammo thing be the deciding factor. As it's been said, Derringers are carried often and shot very infrequently. So not like you'd be stocking up on tons of ammo or anything.

I have an XDSC in 9mm, and while it's a great gun, it's definitely not a pocket pistol. With the advancements in defensive ammo these days, I'd much rather have a little .380 (like my laser equipped LCP) with 7 shots and spare mags if you want, vs a hard to shoot well heavy recoiling Derringer. Shot placement is far more important than caliber. Just something to think about.

Oh I also saw this new gun (I think?) in a gun rag that is 2 shot double barreled pistol, kinda like a Derringer, but looks more like an auto than a revolver. IIRC it could be had in 9mm and .40 but I'm not positive. Also no clue of the track record of this gun, but might be worth looking at.

deadshot2 · 01-17-2012, 08:10 AM

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I will need to gain some proficiency with it before I start carrying it.

With a derringer the only "proficiency" one needs is being able to get it into your hand, point, and then shoot. It's a gun that's designed to be used in "across the table" distances.

Some ranges ban their use because they essentially have no "sight radius" and most shots end up in the ceiling, walls, and floor, before they hit the bullet traps.

sonorousaria · 01-17-2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GixxerPete

Oh I also saw this new gun (I think?) in a gun rag that is 2 shot double barreled pistol, kinda like a Derringer, but looks more like an auto than a revolver. IIRC it could be had in 9mm and .40 but I'm not positive. Also no clue of the track record of this gun, but might be worth looking at.

Any chance you remember the name of this gun?

DerBarbarian · 01-17-2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GixxerPete

Well I wouldn't let the ammo thing be the deciding factor. As it's been said, Derringers are carried often and shot very infrequently. So not like you'd be stocking up on tons of ammo or anything.

I have an XDSC in 9mm, and while it's a great gun, it's definitely not a pocket pistol. With the advancements in defensive ammo these days, I'd much rather have a little .380 (like my laser equipped LCP) with 7 shots and spare mags if you want, vs a hard to shoot well heavy recoiling Derringer. Shot placement is far more important than caliber. Just something to think about.

Oh I also saw this new gun (I think?) in a gun rag that is 2 shot double barreled pistol, kinda like a Derringer, but looks more like an auto than a revolver. IIRC it could be had in 9mm and .40 but I'm not positive. Also no clue of the track record of this gun, but might be worth looking at.

At the range you would use the Derringer most any caliber would work.. Hell a .25 would work, it's more of a gut gun than anything else.

GixxerPete · 01-19-2012, 08:11 AM

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Any chance you remember the name of this gun?

I found it, it's called Double Tap made by Heizer Defense. It's offered in 9mm and .45 though, didn't see .40 at all.

Heizer Defense - Creators of DoubleTap™

As I said before, I have not seen this gun reviewed, just the ad in the magazines. It could be a total POS for all I know, as I've never heard of the Heizer before, so caveat emptor.

McWeaze · 01-19-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GixxerPete

I found it, it's called Double Tap made by Heizer Defense. It's offered in 9mm and .45 though, didn't see .40 at all.

Heizer Defense - Creators of DoubleTap™

As I said before, I have not seen this gun reviewed, just the ad in the magazines. It could be a total POS for all I know, as I've never heard of the Heizer before, so caveat emptor.

Holy crap that is expensive!

GixxerPete · 01-20-2012, 10:20 AM

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Holy crap that is expensive!

Oh wow, it sure is. I hadn't seen the prices before, bit more than I would have expected. That and its a completely unproven design IMO. But hey, maybe they're on to something?

Beth · 04-22-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by McWeaze

I have a 2 shot .38 and the roll in your hand is pretty nasty... Not a Bond Arms, but I'm sure the're similar

I've shot a .38 o/u derringer, forget the brand but it was a typical "Western" style gun...could (and did) fire a dozen rounds no prob.

I think it was $140 back in the 90's...

richardlpalmer · 04-23-2013, 11:06 PM

With the .40 being a high compression round, I wouldn't think it'd be the most ideal round for a derringer. Haven't seen any actually.

That being said, I had a buddy with a .45 Long Colt derringer. Cripes, no thank you...

01-15-2012, 07:11 PM	#1
sonorousaria Gunslinger Joined: May 2011 From: USA Posts: 17	Anyone have a 2 shot derringer? I'm looking at a bond arms 2 shot derringer in .40 S&W. I have heard from some people that the recoil can be nasty and most only shoot it once then sell it or put it away. I'm looking for someone who has any 2 shot derringer (preferably a bond arms, but i'll shoot any) thats willing to meet me at a range to crack off a few rounds so I can see for myself before I buy one. I live on the north oregon coast. I can travel to the Portland Metro area, or as far a Seattle if I must. I would really appreciate your help. Thanks!!!

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01-16-2012, 07:32 AM	#3
deadshot2 Marksman Joined: May 2011 From: NW Quadrant WA State Posts: 288	Derringer's were never meant to be a "range gun". They were truly a "last chance" defense weapon. That's probably why some buy them, shoot them once, and then sell them.

01-16-2012, 09:23 AM	#4
sonorousaria Gunslinger Joined: May 2011 From: USA Posts: 17	Yes, I understand. Like almost all pocket pistols, it won't be a pleasure to shoot. However, I would still like to be able, if possible, to feel for myself what its like. It needs to be one that I am at least able and willing to manage the recoil on the range because I will need to gain some proficiency with it before I start carrying it.

01-16-2012, 03:00 PM	#5
GixxerPete Sharpshooter Joined: Jan 2009 From: Renton, WA Posts: 845	Why that gun? And why a in .40? Just curious, as it's a fairly uncommon combo and choice for a carry gun.

01-16-2012, 04:11 PM	#6
sonorousaria Gunslinger Joined: May 2011 From: USA Posts: 17	These may be stupid reasons but my primary carry gun (Springfield XDSC) is chambered for the .40, so i reason that it will be cheaper to keep a stock of only 1 caliber ammo, instead of 2. I want the derringer because i want a small pocket pistol for backup carry and i dont think the .380 pocket pistols are powerful enough for my liking, and the .357 mag revolvers (LCR and the like) are too big to feel comfortable in my pocket. (I very much dislike bulk and usually take my wallet out when sitting down.)

01-17-2012, 08:01 AM	#7
GixxerPete Sharpshooter Joined: Jan 2009 From: Renton, WA Posts: 845	Well I wouldn't let the ammo thing be the deciding factor. As it's been said, Derringers are carried often and shot very infrequently. So not like you'd be stocking up on tons of ammo or anything. I have an XDSC in 9mm, and while it's a great gun, it's definitely not a pocket pistol. With the advancements in defensive ammo these days, I'd much rather have a little .380 (like my laser equipped LCP) with 7 shots and spare mags if you want, vs a hard to shoot well heavy recoiling Derringer. Shot placement is far more important than caliber. Just something to think about. Oh I also saw this new gun (I think?) in a gun rag that is 2 shot double barreled pistol, kinda like a Derringer, but looks more like an auto than a revolver. IIRC it could be had in 9mm and .40 but I'm not positive. Also no clue of the track record of this gun, but might be worth looking at.

04-23-2013, 11:06 PM	#15
richardlpalmer Sniper Joined: Jan 2009 From: Kirkland, WA Posts: 1,318	With the .40 being a high compression round, I wouldn't think it'd be the most ideal round for a derringer. Haven't seen any actually. That being said, I had a buddy with a .45 Long Colt derringer. Cripes, no thank you...