gun law question (hunting) firearm in vehicle

first,
I'm not sure if this is the right section or not,
but I'm asking for Wa state in particular.


when hunting Muzzle loader season
is it legal to have the rifle loaded in the vehicle?

since once the muzzle loader is loaded, it can't really be unloaded without firing




(when I lived (and hunted) in VA, it wasn't really an issue
we would load up the muzzle loaders at the begining of the season, and fire the rifles (at targets) on sunday (no hunting on sundays) and clean the rifles, re load monday morning before going out again)

millertime said:

I know you can have any fire arm loading in the vehicle as long as you have your carry permit.

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I don't know if that's completely correct,

Wa's permit is a CPL specifying "Pistol"

Lammo said:

You can only have a PISTOL loaded in a vehicle with a carry permit (and with a couple of other exceptions that prove the rule). RCW 9.41.050, here: RCW 9.41.050: Carrying firearms. You may not carry a loaded rifle in a vehicle unless you have a disabled hunter permit. There is no exception for muzzle loaders. RCW 77.15.460, here: RCW 77.15.460: Loaded firearm in vehicle ? Unlawful use or possession ? Penalty.

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thanks,

actually, in that reference: RCW 77.15.460: Loaded firearm in vehicle ? Unlawful use or possession ? Penalty.

(1) A person is guilty of unlawful possession of a loaded firearm in a motor vehicle if:

(a) The person carries, transports, conveys, possesses, or controls a rifle or shotgun in or on a motor vehicle; and

(b) The rifle or shotgun contains shells or cartridges in the magazine or chamber, or is a muzzle-loading firearm that is loaded and capped or primed.

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so,
if it's not "primed" (no percussion cap installed) it's not "Loaded"


that's exactly what I needed :top:

millertime said:

been doing some research and this is kind of vague

RCW 9.41.060: Exceptions to restrictions on carrying firearms.

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this too...

(8) Any person engaging in a lawful outdoor recreational activity such as hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, or horseback riding, only if, considering all of the attendant circumstances, including but not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license, it is reasonable to conclude that the person is participating in lawful outdoor activities or is traveling to or from a legitimate outdoor recreation area;

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Lammo said:

RCW 9.41.060's first line says it does not apply to the restrictions contained in RCW 9.41.050, which only deals with pistols (which are defined in RCW 9.41.010 to include revolvers). So, nothing in RCW 9.41.060 will allow loaded rifle carry in a vehicle. I think you are correct that an uncapped/unprimed (not a muzzle loader owner so I don't know the difference) muzzle loader is not considered loaded and therefore not prohibited by RCW 77.15.460.

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if 9.41.060 does not apply to restrictions in 9.41.050 (pistols)
then it doesn't say it doesn't allow a loaded rifle :headscratch:

but I'd only transport without the primer anyways.:top: